Wikipedia:Peer review/Robert Clark (actor)/archive1
I watch Black Hole High and am a fan of this actor, and I thought he deserved a strong Wikipedia article. I have improved and expanded it as much as I could from the version that was present before (diff), and while I am fully aware that it is far too short to be a featured article at the moment, I was wondering whether anybody here had any ideas on how I could improve upon its current state. Thanks in advance. Extraordinary Machine 02:49, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
- You're going to need to get the copyright status of the images you're using in order. Right now, the two images you've got, Image:Robert Clark in Veronica Mars 26-04-05.jpg and Image:Robert Clark in The Zack Files.jpg are claimed under fair use. In order to use them, you'll need to follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:Image description page#Fair use rationale. A good example of use of fair-use images in an article is Sunset Boulevard (film) and the associated image description pages. You should probably also try to get at least one image under a free license. One option for this would be to contact Robert Clark's agent and ask for a publicity photo to be released under the a GFDL or Creative Commons CC-BY license. --Carnildo 06:04, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for the tips! I've added fair use rationale descriptions to both images, partly based on what User:Rossrs did on the Sunset Boulevard images. I'm also about to send an email to Clark's official website, although I might not receive a reply; the website's information is out of date by years. There are other places I could search, though. Once again, thanks! Extraordinary Machine 13:23, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- I think it is a good article. I'd never heard of the gentleman, but I did see the Veronica Mars episode cited, so it turns out I am familiar with him. While I think it is good, you will have problems getting it through FAC on the grounds some people think it is too short. Never mind that a nineteen year old isn't going to have a huge article, people will say it is too short--trust me, I've heard this objection on my own articles, e.g. Julia Stiles and John Henninger Reagan. FAC commentators will also seize upon the photographs problem, which I don't see ought to be an impediment to getting FA status, but people will object. Now, as to the article itself . . . What happened to his father? Divorce? Something ought to be said because it looks odd mentioning only a mother. Second, I wonder if you could find some print articles about him? You might try accessing databases such as ProQuest or Ebsco through the public library. I'm hesistant about articles where all the sources are electronic. While I've used many links on articles such as Tom Brinkman and Paul Hackett, I also cited the print version so when the operators of those sites take down the electronic versions people will still be able to find the material. Third, I'd eliminate some of the red-links to movies and schools. Again, this will raise objections if you take it to FAC. Finally, most of the article is dedicated to his roles. Is there any more you could add about his personal life. Does he have any charities or causes? User:Niteowlneils helped get some of this color for my Julia Stiles article when it was up as a FAC. Again, I want to say I liked the article. PedanticallySpeaking 14:45, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply! I agree that the article is too short, it's just that there doesn't seem to be a peer review section on Wikipedia for articles that aren't on the road to becoming an FA. I've provided fair use rationale for the images as best I could, but I'm afraid I couldn't find much information about his family, personal life, activities outside of his career, etc...apart from a fansite which mentioned the names of Clark's father (or stepfather) and younger brother, but it seemed very dubious and did not cite its source(s). I don't live in North America, so I'm not sure if my public library has access to those databases you listed, but it wouldn't hurt to check. The red-links I can turn into articles without problem. As for the external links vs. print references, I'll try to contact the print publications to see which issue (and possibly page number) the specific articles appear on. I am extremely grateful for your comments! Extraordinary Machine 02:27, 7 August 2005 (UTC)