Wikipedia:Peer review/Manila Light Rail Transit System/archive1

Manila Light Rail Transit System

Well, this article has been one of my earliest projects, and I think it has come a very long way from nearly a year ago, although I would like to get opinions on the article. It looks pretty comprehensive, but as always, there's plenty of room for improvement. --Akira123323 10:59, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am not really fond of the many blank wikipedia links (red in color). --Noypi380 06:26, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So am I. I'm starting on the stations (which are mostly blank) first, then probably on some of the other articles, like the LRTA and the SRTS. --Akira123323 09:38, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I have trimmed the number of blank Wikipedia links, although station articles continue to be a problem. --Akira123323 11:39, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've lost that MTV Ink magazine that featured the LRT-1 and MRT stations. That could have helped. Btw, I'm thinking of having a List of Manila LRT and MRT stations. --Howard the Duck | talk, 10:03, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I did a preliminary table in the past, but with the integration of the LRT and MRT into the SRTS, when it's complete, I might make a List of Strong Republic Transit System stations. But for the time being, I might make a list under that name. --Akira123323 10:19, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Even the PNR ones? That'll be better. How about changing "Notes" into "References"? --Howard the Duck | talk, 09:58, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I could. I made the LRT-MRT list, and I have a feeling MRT-5 in the MRT page is actually Southrail. If it is, I'll change the list title to the SRTS one and add in the so-called MRT-5. And I changed "Notes" to "References". --Akira123323 10:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, now that I can conclude that MRT-5 is supposedly Northrail, and I can get Southrail stations through other resources, I might start making the SRTS list. --Akira123323 03:18, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The SRTS list has been made out of the LRT/MRT list and has been subsequently moved. --Akira123323 04:20, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The stations list has been removed and replaced with info on the station facilities, amenities and what not, while I added a link to the list of stations. --Akira123323 02:49, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another bit: the capitalization of station names might be wrong. As I've seen on Jordanhill railway station, only the station name per se should be capitalized. So Monumento LRT Station should be Monumento LRT station. ~~210.1.86.198 15:29, 3 May 2006 (UTC)~~ --Howard the Duck | talk, 15:31, 3 May 2006 (UTC) (Wiki keeps on signing me out, bummer).[reply]

The thing is that I followed Singapore MRT naming conventions, where they capitalize the entire name (examples include Jurong East MRT Station and Dhoby Ghaut MRT Station), although when I first wikilinked the station names, I left station in small caps. --Akira123323 17:29, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am unsure of this. Either "LRT station" is a part of the name, or it is a modifier. Actually, the little question here is "station" since LRT has to be capitalized. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization). --Howard the Duck | talk, 15:59, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The naming convention states that second and subsequent words should not be capitalized unless you're making an article that incorporates a proper name. I checked with other lists, and the station lists of the Singapore MRT, the Vancouver Skytrain and BART in San Francisco capitalize the word "station", while metro station names in other parts of North America and in Hong Kong and Paris don't implement the word at all (instead, the format <station name>(<system>) is used). Mexico City uses a different system, while others just use the station name without "station", leave station in small caps, or don't wikilink station names at all. It's dependent on whether it's part of the name or not, but I'm presuming it is because since LRT stations are named after streets or other landmarks, the station names need to be distinct. --Akira123323 16:57, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, then since the naming conventions are chaotic (see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (stations)), lets just abide by the ones that we have. Another little thing: whenever I ride the Megatren, the voiceover says Araneta Center-Cubao terminal station. Would it be possible to rename Araneta Center-Cubao LRT Station to Araneta Center-Cubao Terminal LRT Station? (For me it sounds stupid, lol) But I guess since Central Terminal LRT Station is named as such I guess it shouldn't be a problem. --Howard the Duck | talk, 18:53, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure, but the LRTA named Central Terminal station for some reason because it's at the center of the line (and because it is a terminal station, although Yehey in its LRT guide called it "Central Terminal Arroceros"). Some websites name Monumento and Baclaran stations as the "North Terminal" and the "South Terminal" respectively, but I know Araneta Center-Cubao, as named by the LRTA (as Cubao on their map), does not incorporate the word "terminal", as is the case with Baclaran and Monumento. --Akira123323 01:58, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm almost certain that the voiceover says Paparating na sa Araneta Center-Cubao terminal station, although perhaps the voiceover was just reading a badly-constructed sentence. --Howard the Duck | talk, 14:10, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Last thing: Is MRT-2 (Megatren/Purple line) really MRT? Or is it LRT-2? If it's MRT-2 then it should be at Manila Metro Rail Transit System. --Howard the Duck | talk, 14:10, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The LRTA calls it MRT-2, but it's generally considered part of the LRT. It's even on the official LRT system map (which is the map shown in the main article), unlike MRT-3, which it isn't. --Akira123323 15:22, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Probably some readers will be confused. Really last: Can you incorporate the info on "Other information" section on other sections? That may seem as trivia. --Howard the Duck | talk, 16:32, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done. I actually noticed that most of the information was redundant with previous sections, while others were removed because they didn't fit in any of the existing sections, and one didn't even involve the LRT (rather, it mostly involved the MRT). I also took the time to reorganize, changing the positions of the future expansion (formerly the planned extensions section) and incidents and accidents sections. I also rewrote the lead section of the future expansion section and switched the positions of some of the references to reflect the reorganization of the article. --Akira123323 17:34, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yeah, I also added a safety section to merge the incidents and accidents section with safety and security. I also removed the old lines and system network section since it's on the station list. --Akira123323 15:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]