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List of thrash metal bands

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I've been working on this article since late 2007, starting off by adding thrash albums to the various bands present in the list. In March 2008, I started adding cited entries to various bands, summarizing their impact on the thrash metal scene. I think this list has the potential of becoming an FL candidate. Hence I would like the editors here to review this list, so that any flaws or shortcomings present can be addressed. Any feedback, however, would be much appreciated. Thank You, Welt^anschaunng 12:29, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ruhrfisch comments: Great user name! Interesting list and I will be the first to admit I know little about the topic, although I know some of the bands. Here are some thoughts / suggestions for improvement:

The bold text in the lead is not supposed to also be wikilinked per the MOS (so link thrash metal elsewhere) or rewrite the first sentence, perhaps something like This list of thrash metal bands includes bands that have played thrash metal at some point during their career, sorted as per the country of their origin. See WP:LEAD
~~Per WP:MOS#Images, don't sandwich text between two images~~
~~The band name Sodom is a dab link~~
~~Perhaps give the country of origin for each notable band mentioned in the lead (US bands noted already)~~

The next comments are more my questions than definite "must do" suggestions. I have helped write three WP:FL, but on state parks and Pennsylvania counties, so I am not as familiar with music FL criteria. Still here are my thoughts.

I like using sortable lists as they allow the reader to sort by the column they are interested in. For this list I wonder if it would help to have the default listing still be by country, but also be sortable by other information.
I also note that many of the entries are nothing more than a link to the band name - for FLC my guess is that they will want approximately equal information on each list entry. Currently some bands have a nice description and an album listing, while others have nothing but the name.
So I would have perhaps five columns: country of origin, name, description, Thrash albums, and perhaps some sort of date. The first four items are given for some bands already. The date could be their first album or their years of activity. I would not sort the comments, and perhaps not their albums - if you did then it would sort by the name of their first album.
Two more suggestions: a model article is always useful, so see if you can find one to follow and for ideas. I would also look at WP:FLC to get some ideas of what the reviewrs there are looking for nowadays.
You may find it easier to have two sortable lists: USA and rest of the world.
My concern is that as it is, FLC may ask why "Hobbs' Angel of Death" gets a description and album listing, but not the other four Australian thrash metal bands.

Hope this helps, obviously a lot of work so far, but I think more is needed. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:48, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for writing the review! I have fixed the major points you raised.

I am trying to model the list as per the list of Telecaster players. There are very few featured music lists, and most are discography type lists. I think tables are not suitable for these type of lists, as the snippets doesn't seem to gel well with it. I toyed with the idea, but settled on this format on recommendation of another user.

Yeah, its not complete. I don't plan to take it to wp:FL anytime soon though.

As for the sorting, well it was alphabetical earlier, but there was an issue over the improper use of flagicons in the list. If you have a look at other band lists, you'll get an idea. I used country-wise sorting partly to address the nationality issue which was raised for retaining flagicons. I could revert back to the previous sorting format, if that's a problem. And yeah, the "years active" info seems a good idea.

PS - my name has a typo, I presume you are German or interested in Germany! Welt^anschaunng 19:27, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

After I did this review, I was asked to review List of folk metal bands, which does use a sortable table and some of the things suggested here, plus others I did not think of. Again, it is your call, but it may give you some ideas. The thing about FLC is that I think they will want each of the entries in the list to have about the same amount of information. It may be seen as POV to single out one or two bands per country. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 01:02, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PS I speak Germann and have lived inn Germanny inn the past, but I hadnn't nnoticed a typo ;-) Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 01:02, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]