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List of Oxford United F.C. players

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I have just spent a few days working on the article in my sandbox and would like to know if there are any more changes i could make to the article before i take it to FLC. Any comments would be gratefully recieved.

Thanks, Eddie6705 (talk) 22:16, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I have just one question at this stage - what is the basis of selection? Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 23:07, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Players who have made over 100 appearances for the club, or have made an international appearance while at the club. I will add a note in now. Eddie6705 (talk) 01:11, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Comments from ChrisTheDude (talk · contribs)

• First sentence has a lot of run-on clauses, could do with being broken up
  • Have tried to make it flow better.
• Steve Basham seems a rather random choice for the main image, as his time at the club doesn't seem to have been especially remarkable. Are there no images available of any player who made a truly significant impact at OUFC?
  • Have replaced with a picture of Big Ron, although ideally i'd have liked one of Malcolm Shotton.
• "This was the case until 1960" => "The club retained this name"
  • Changed
• You have "the club was" and "the club were" in consecutive sentences - decide if the club is singular or plural then be consistent
  • Changed to was
• "preceded" is spelt wrong
  • Corrected
• "Ron's brother" => "his brother"
  • Changed
• No need for comma after Graham Atkinson's name
  • Removed
• "Irish" before John Aldridge's name should point to Republic of Ireland not just Ireland
  • Changed
• ....and in the table too
  • Changed all Ireland players
• "The list is comprised of" => "The list comprises"
  • Changed
• Couldn't the two sentences detailed what competitions are included simpy be combined into one list?
  • I suppose it it would make better sense, changed.
• Note K seems unnecesarily convoluted, especially since note C already stated that stats are taken from Howland (with no mention of specific page ranges) unless noted otherwise......
  • Removed note K
• Is ultimatenzsoccer.com a reliable source? It looks like a fan page.....
  • It does state the sources it used for that page and i cant find another source anywhere that states his results (except rageonline but thats deamed reliable either).

Hope this helps! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:03, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Comments from Struway2 (talk · contribs)

• At first mention, call it Oxford United F.C., rather than just Oxford United. And then drop the F.C. when you talk about the name change
  • Done
• Do you think the lead section ought to be referenced at all? Presumably the player-related stuff is all referenced in the table, but it wouldn't do any harm to add a ref to the club's history page or whatever, to cover the first paragraph
  • Added two references.
• The colour-coded cells need a symbol (asterisk or suchlike) as well as the colouring, for accessibility (the international caps ones do, anyway; could argue that the footnote labels appearing in the Records column count as an alternative to the colour)
  • Done, although i'd like your opinion on whether the '†' are needed for the records.
• Only players who qualify for WP articles should be redlinked, generally this means those who played in the Football League. Some of your early players perhaps shouldn't be?
  • Agreed, except i'm not sure how to de-link them and still keep them sortable. Done
• You say that stats are sourced to the Complete Record book except where stated, but the book only goes up to 1989, and there are several players (Judge, Saunders, Smart) after that date without an alternative source
  • Refs have been added
• Ref#14 Martin Foyle points to the right place, but you've called it Bobby Ford (best check there aren't any more like that)
  • Fixed and checked
• What are your sources for players being capped for their country while with the club? at least those after your book date
  • Added sources for the two players that required them.
• Footnote A: now the article's called Association football positions, there's no real need to pipe it to Football positions
  • Changed
• Footnote D: in the Oxford Mail cite-template, names of newspapers belong at the "work=" rather than the "publisher=" parameter
  • Changed
• Footnote I: Might drop the Holds the club record for being and just say The first Oxford United player to play...
  • Changed
• Footnote J: the Sky ref doesn't actually source Windass' fee as being a club record.
  • Changed ref
• Ref#2 needs an endash not a hyphen in the page range
  • Changed
• Do you know if Soccerbase includes minor comps such as the AngloItalian in Oxford's player totals? When I first did List of Birmingham City F.C. players, Birmingham player totals on Soccerbase didn't always include it, but they do now, so it's probably the case for Oxford's as well.
  • Soccerbase has included the AngloItalian for those players after 1989. I have checked the figures against those on supporter site Rage Online to check the 'other' apps. As far as i can tell they also include the Football League Trophy and Full Members Cup.

hope some of this helps, cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:14, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) I have looked at the soccerbase comment and replied. I will look at the other points tomorrow and get back to you when i'm done. Eddie6705 (talk) 17:29, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

I think you've forgotten to save your changes, or something, cos it still looks the same to me... On the name-sorting, there's a parameter to {{sortname}} to suppress linking, which helpfully doesn't appear in the documentationdidn't appear in the documentation but does now and is mentioned at Template talk:Sort#No wikilinking in Sortname. If you add |nolink=1 it sorts properly but without creating a wikilink. On the colour-coding, I'd be happy without the dagger in the Records column, the footnote labels are an acceptable alternative, per WP:Colours#Using colours in articles. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 18:03, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Hmm. Dunno wats happened there. I'll redo the changes now. Eddie6705 (talk) 18:46, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Done (hopefully). Eddie6705 (talk) 19:04, 26 February 2009 (UTC)