Wikipedia:Peer review/List of Minnesota state parks/archive1
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I've listed this article for peer review because I would like to nominate it to be a FL and I wanted to get opinions from others. Thanks for any feedback!
Thanks, Theking17825 (talk) 03:42, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Ruhrfisch comments: As you probably know, I was one of the editors who helped get List of Pennsylvania state parks to FL status. This looks pretty good overall, but I have some questions and some suggestions for improvement.
- Featured lists don't start with "This is a list..." any more
- One dead external link - see link checker in tool boix on this PR page.
- My biggest concern is the inclusion criteria. The lead says in part The Minnesota State Park system consists of 66 state parks, six state recreation areas, eight state waysides, nineteen state trails, and 54 state forest campgrounds and day use areas,... and the state parks, state recreation areas, and state waysides are all listed, but the state trails and state forest campgrounds are not. Why?
- WP:WIAFL says 2. It has an engaging lead that introduces the subject and defines the scope and inclusion criteria. so what is and is not included in the list seems to need to be better defined.
- Similarly I wondered about the waysides that are former state parks, but are not listed explicitly in the former parks section. I think here that modifying the sentence Some of these units were redesignated as state waysides. to include the specific number and to add "and have already been listed above" would work.
- Why are the 23 state monuments that were once state parks not listed here?
- Also the MOS says not to start a sentence with numbers as numbers ("23 state monuments...")
- Since wayside is not a familiar term for most people, I owuld probably briefly define it in the lead.
- Make sure to use "double quotes" and not 'single quotes' - example Also spelled 'Kadunce'. Formerly Kodunce River State Park. (By the way that entry spells the name three different ways: Kodonce, Kadunce, and Kodunce. Are they all spelled correctly?)
- I was surprised that the Overview section did not summarize more of the details from the table. For example, how many counties have state parks? Or there are 27 parks which have NRHP listings mentioned in the table, but no mention of NRHP is made in the lead or overview. Also no mention of the two NNLs.
- By the way the article needs to spell terms out the first time and then introduce the abbreviation. So, for example: National Register of Historic Places (NRHP)
- Needs a ref "In 1971 the department became the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources."
- No developments in history since 1971? Only one noteworthy thing since 1935?
- I found this official website for the waysides http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/state_parks/waysides/index.html which does not seem to be used in the article.
- It also says that 4 of 8 do not have picnic facilities and 5 of 8 do not have toilets, so I would change the general statement Generally development is limited to a parking area, picnic tables, outhouses, and a short trail.[4] in the intro.
- I am surprised that there is nothing like {{Protected Areas of Pennsylvania}} (not a requirement for FL, just useful)
- Please make sure that the existing text includes no copyright violations, plagiarism, or close paraphrasing. For more information on this please see Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2009-04-13/Dispatches. (This is a general warning given in all peer reviews, in view of previous problems that have risen over copyvios.)
Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). I do not watch peer reviews, so if you have questions or comments, please contact me on my talk page. Yours, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 12:34, 20 May 2011 (UTC)