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La Dafne

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I've listed this article for peer review because I'd like to enhance this historical context and highlight the artistic significance of the opera La Dafne. All citations and content reference reviews are appreciated.

Thanks, LMR0804 (talk) 05:37, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, LMR0804. Congratulations on learning to navigate the Wikipedia world!

Structure, Format and Appearance looks good so far. As you move forward, here are a few ideas on how to expand:

Break the synopsis down by scene and provide more detail.
Provide links to information about each recording listed.
Links to sound samples (Does Wikipedia allow this?)
History of the two Dafne operas. Include that in the lede.
a See Also section.
Performances in the 20th century?

Content and Sources

You conflate some information on the two early Dafne attempts. It looks like this page is meant to be the Gagliano, and this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dafne is meant to be the earlier Peri one. Good idea to expand the Gagliano page. It looks like that opera is performed from time to time. Here are some thoughts on citations:

hyperlink Florentine Camerata
The Italian site seems to be a more contemporary resource. The French site is informative, but I recommend sticking to English sources for an English page. New Grove Dictionary of Opera is a good place to look.
Look for places to add citations.

Good luck on your next steps! Mcraab123 (talk) 19:47, 16 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I’m sure you have lots of work in store. And I’m intrigued to see where you head with this article. A few minor edits and then broader stuff.

“first full length opera ever composed” – “ever” is redundant

any further elaboration wanted on the synopsis? Seems brief for an entire opera - maybe separated by act/scene or however it's organized.

“late February, 1608.” no comma needed

I'm curious as to why I care about La Dafne. It sounds influential in that it's the first but maybe what led to it's creation would be insightful. Maybe a breif history of opera is important or at least the formative years. If it is the first, what came after and/or was influenced by it?

is there a link for favola in musica? Could you define it? Keithpaulmedelis (talk) 19:57, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lead needs correction

Hi LMR0804, the current lead written by you is passing wrong information, probably because you're confusing Peri's and Gagliano's operas, as also noted by Mcraab123.

Jacopo Peri's Dafne (1598) is the first ever opera; the earliest surviving opera is Euridice (1600), also by Peri. Monteverdi's L'Orfeo (1607) is the earliest surviving opera that is still regularly performed today, and Gagliano's La Dafne came only in 1608.

Keithpaulmedelis asked for a definition of favola in musica: it's just Italian for "fable set to music", an attempt by music publishers of that time to explain what that novelty was all about. This expression also appeared in the first edition of L'Orfeo. —capmo (talk) 03:42, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comments:

I have reworded the first paragraph to eliminate the Gagliano/Peri confusion. This article is about Gagliano's 1608 work, and I suggest that to avoid further confusion the title is moved to "La Dafne(Gagliano opera)".
I've not checked the rest of the content in any detail, although I can't see any major howlers. The article needs better sourcing – some information, e.g. the cast list, is unsourced.
The image is not of the score; it appears to be of a 1810 version of the libretto. This is probably PD, but the image page needs to give details of the source of the image.

Brianboulton (talk) 21:45, 20 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Added comments':

Links to sources need to be checked and made more specific in ref to this article.
Viking no longer: now Penguin Guide. Have added that specific ref with author. Everyone should own this basic book.
Found an image from the original published score.
Brenac link only seems to go to main page.....
Added Grove ref
Suggest getting hold of these publications and using them to add to the article! Good luck!

Viva-Verdi (talk) 00:32, 2 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]