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Celtic F.C.

I want to have this article peer reviewed. So all comments are appreciated. --Chazz88 14:40, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think the Recent Achievements section should be moved into the History section. A lot of people don't like having lots of short sub-sections, so it might be an idea to see if some of them could be merged. I think Celtic's European Cup finals could do with a bit more detail as well. It seems strange that there's more on John Barnes' incompetence than both of them put together. File:Yemen flag large.png CTOAGN (talk) 17:22, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The article suffers from a severe lack of references. i.e the second paragraph ...one of the most famous football stadia in Europe. According to whom?
The article could do with an image or two.
Consider jettisoning the Famous Celtic Fans section. Anyone whose support for the club is particularly notable should have it mentioned in their article, not Celtic's.
The section An anti-Celtic agenda? looks POV.
I agree with CTOAGN that the European Cup finals deserve more attention. Oldelpaso 10:05, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

IFK Göteborg and Arsenal F.C. are both featured articles about football clubs, and might be useful for comparison.
The phrase "one of the most famous/greatest/biggest..." is used a lot - if an instance can be backed up with references then fine, add them. Else it's just weasel words.
The History section is enormous, far too big. Ideally it should be moved to a separate article, e.g. History of Celtic F.C.. Recent Achievements should also be removed, and become a subsection of that page (and ideally slimmed down as well - does John Barnes' five-minute reign really warrant four paragraphs?) In their place, have a briefer History section written in summary style, and a link to the main article at the top.
An anti-Celtic agenda? looks quite POV - the fact there is a question mark in the header says it all. Either get rid of it, or back it up with facts and references.
Although Old Firm has its very own article, I am surprised there isn't more than a cursory mention of Celtic's Catholic heritage and the club's rivalry with Rangers in this article - a brief and neutrally-worded discussion of it (with references) would add much-needed additional context.
Top scorers should be tabulated (and the two tables should probably be combined). The number of games each player played would be useful and informative.
Separate club records from national records that the club has set; perhaps style them a little better too - e.g. in the manner of Arsenal F.C. statistics.
Get rid of famous fans section - it's an unmaintainable and possibly huge list.
Tabulate the managers list.
Un-bold the players in the Famous Celts section. Roy Keane should not be in there - he hasn't even played a match for the club yet.
External links should be organised better - separate it into official/news/fan sites.
Could do with some more photos, but I know it can be tricky finding sports pictures with free licences.
I've said it before, but I'll say it again: the article needs references from authoritative sources, especially for any specific historical claims (e.g. did Jock Stein really instigate the "Tracksuit manager" trend? Says who?).

That's the ones off the top of my head, might add a few more later. Qwghlm 22:53, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]