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I've listed this article for peer review because its been improved and expanded since its last assesment in 2008. A PR would help with insight on how to take the article further.
Thanks, Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 10:28, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
Brianboulton comments: An interesting article, needing some extra work to bring it to B standard or better. Here are some pointers:-
- Lead
- The purpose of the lead is to provide a broad overview of the main text. It is not the place for details such as "...along Marine Drive near Churchgate railway station in South Mumbai" or the clubhouse arrangements for CCI members, or the precise length of the interval between the 1972 and 2009 Tests. These are matters for the text proper, rather than the lead.
- Matters which are cited in the main text should not be cited in the lead.
- Prose issues
- The tone is often non-encyclopedic. Too many instances to list them all, but here are a few examples:-
- "The eight years at Brabourne were perhaps the most glorious in the history of the tournament" POV
- "Jonty later recollected..." Too informal
- Already changed to "Rhodes ..." Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 08:31, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- "The match is remembered for Sachin Tendulkar announcing his resignation from the post of Captain of the Indian team at the press box". Remembered by whom?
- "Virender Sehwag scored a belligerent double century (293)..." This is sports reporting, not encyclopedic language
- Removed belligerent. Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 08:37, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- There are too many short, sometimes single-sentence paragraphs.
- There are a few problematic sentences, e.g:-
- "Anthony de Mello, then the Secretary of BCCI, also served the secretary of CCI from 1933 to 1937." (Word missing?)
- de Mello was the secretary of BCCI from 1928 to 1938 as well. Should it be rewritten ? Tintin 12:57, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
- "Chris Cairns allegedly drunk jumped into the CCI swimming pool a day before the deciding sixth ODI between India and New Zealand in 1995." Lacks punctuation
- "Board Presidents" → "Board President's"
- "In the end the second season was moved out of India and held in South Africa due to securing concerns." Odd wording ("securing concerns"?). "In the end" is very vague. And what has this to do with the stadium?
- Since the tournament was moved out of India there was no question of any matches at the stadium. Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 08:37, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- A few general points
- Amir Khan links to a disambiguation page
- Citation is uneven. There are several uncited paragraphs (see third & fifth paras in the "Cricket Matches" section), and other instances of uncited material.
- Reference formatting is inconsistent, e.g: "page" and "p.", ISBNs missing in some cases, print sources should be italicised, etc
ISBN added where possible, some books cited dont have an isbn. Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 08:31, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Why is a gallery justified? The images in the gallery are not generally useful as illustrations of the text. I recommend promoting perhaps a couple of them into the main text, and ditching the rest.
- The gallery shows different parts and uses of the stadium. Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 08:31, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Good luck with the article, and I'll be pleased to look at it again when you've addressed these issues. Call my talkpage. Brianboulton (talk) 00:41, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
- Comment Please look around for the "75000" in the lead. I am pretty sure that I saw 90,000 in much better sources. Tintin 13:46, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
May be 75000 for the ground and the rest for other amenities? Not sure. Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 08:26, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Looked around a bit more. The NZ paper is dated April 27, 1935. At that time, the construction hadn't even started - "the GCC (General Construction Company) drove the first pile of foundation on 26 October, 1936" (Boria Majumdar, 22 yards to freedom, p.222). So they could not have known any breakup on what was to be allocated for what. The Indian sources are explicit on 90,000. Raiji/Dossa is one. Times of Brabourne by Raghavendra Kannan is another - "A piece of land measuring 90,000 square yards was finally given to CCI ...(p.15)". So we don't need to use a NZ report that predates the construction and guess, when we have Indian sources which are recent and unambiguous. Tintin 10:57, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Well explained, expelled my doubts, Iv changed it in the lede. Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 14:58, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Looked around a bit more. The NZ paper is dated April 27, 1935. At that time, the construction hadn't even started - "the GCC (General Construction Company) drove the first pile of foundation on 26 October, 1936" (Boria Majumdar, 22 yards to freedom, p.222). So they could not have known any breakup on what was to be allocated for what. The Indian sources are explicit on 90,000. Raiji/Dossa is one. Times of Brabourne by Raghavendra Kannan is another - "A piece of land measuring 90,000 square yards was finally given to CCI ...(p.15)". So we don't need to use a NZ report that predates the construction and guess, when we have Indian sources which are recent and unambiguous. Tintin 10:57, 9 April 2011 (UTC)