Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates/2 January 2010

MV Asian Glory

The UK flagged car transport ship MV Asian Glory was hijacked off the Somali coast.

Suggesting this due to the high profile nature of the hijacking. Mifter (talk) 18:08, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, Somali hijackings are common. The only reason this is in the UK news is because it is a UK-flagged vessel. Modest Genius ^talk 00:19, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose for now. Though this story could definitely develop into more, right now it's just a Somali hijacking, entirely too common lately. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 02:51, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dubai to open world's tallest building

Yahoo, this is going to be on monday informing in advance.--yousaf465' 12:31, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unnecessary. It is already here. --BorgQueen (talk) 14:25, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support. --can dle •wicke 00:53, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I can see no reason why this shouldn't be posted. Ks0stm ^(T•C•G) 01:11, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I didn't read that, thanks for pointing Your majesty. Will be careful next time ;)--yousaf465' 05:34, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note to remind people: events that will happen in the future can be posted to WP:ITN/FE. They then get automagically nominated on the appropriate day (assuming someone remembers to check ITN/FE, which they usually do). Physchim62 (talk) 12:23, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Any chance we put the image in the way that it covers the whole right part of the ITN box? Given that the skyscraper is very tall so that the picture will be likewise. --Tone 21:23, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You can try recropping the original photo so that the proportions aren't too extreme. Arsonal (talk) 21:33, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here are also two more recent photos from the Commons with better proportions: (1), (2). Arsonal (talk) 21:46, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Youngest-ever chess world number one

19-year-old Norwegian chess grandmaster Magnus Carlsen is confirmed as the youngest-ever world number one in the official January 2010 FIDE rating list.

Suggesting this, as I've updated the article and referenced and included the latest news articles on this, including the following: (Reuters) (TIME) (AFP) (Chessbase). The latter is one of the main chess news websites, but this has received coverage in the mainstream press as well. The article has freely-licensed pictures as well, if needed. Carcharoth (talk) 10:16, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support, significant record breaking, of interest even to those who don't play chess. Modest Genius ^talk 13:21, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Leaning towards support. Any objections? --BorgQueen (talk) 14:26, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Does age count? Cargoking talk 14:47, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Ks0stm ^(T•C•G) 18:34, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support. --can dle •wicke 20:22, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support Bradjamesbrown (talk) 02:55, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Posting. --BorgQueen (talk) 03:32, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Afghanistan attack deadliest on CIA

I think no one has mentioned this, reported death toll now stands somewhere around 8 ( in actual terms it might be around 2).Afghanistan attack deadliest on CIA= and TTP owns attack on Khost base.--yousaf465' 06:19, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This one had more deaths than the Espoo shooting. But it's in Afghanistan and those who died were Americans so... –Howard the Duck 06:28, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes but it's was no ordinary attack the worst ever for the CIA, an agency which is know world over.--yousaf465' 09:38, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. It's a war zone. Several Westerners die each day, let alone the Afghan casualties. Modest Genius ^talk 13:23, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Strong oppose. I find it almost offensive that we should be comparing the deaths of CIA operatives in Afghanistan with the deaths of supermarket employees in a Helsinki suburb! IMHO, we shouldn't have posted the Helsinki shooting, let alone this attack. As for the thinly veiled pre-accusations of "anti-Americanism", I notice that nobody has had a word for the five Canadians (four soldiers and a journalist) killed in Kandahar Province, Afghanistan the very same day, who also had mothers and fathers, friends and colleagues — surely were are more at risk of pro-Americanism, given current nominations. Physchim62 (talk) 19:15, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Don't understand the logic of opposing this. Support for the Canadians also, perhaps combine the two, would that help? --can dle •wicke 20:32, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose American deaths. Neutral if Canadians are included. It is a war, and people die all the time. The death toll is small compared to something like that volleyball suicide bomb item this week. --Plasma Twa 2 21:35, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral now. The event is now three to four days old. I would have supported it had it been nominated earlier, as the article is a good example of quality Wikipedia content. While it's true that six deaths (tragically) is not that many for this conflict, this was "the most lethal attack against the CIA in more than 25 years," according to the article. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 23:25, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Sadly this is far from a unique event in Afghanistan. Besides, it's not news any more. HJMitchell You rang? 23:53, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, This is first time IMHO, the war has really being fought on equal terms. Killing 700 people (90 percent of them civilians ) without a single causality of your own was just like playing any other computer game. Anyway in coming days we might see more of this type of news. We can combine it with the Canadians deaths.--yousaf465' 05:45, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

it is also the first time in history IMHO a country will be destroyed by Drone attacks in Pakistan. wait till India joins NATO and Americans realize that the best Army to defeat Pakistanis is Indian. another job that can be outsourced ;-)Wikireader41 (talk) 21:22, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Teenage depression

A study (published in a peer-reviewed journal) suggests that teenagers with late bedtimes are more prone to depression. Of interest to our readers? (asks this non-teenage editor at 2am local time) I'm not sure what the article to update would be. Physchim62 (talk) 02:03, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting to me, because I'm a teenager, yes. Interesting to parents of teenagers, yes. Interesting to everyone else, I doubt it. Ks0stm ^(T•C•G) 02:45, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, between teenagers, parents and grandparents, that covers about half our editors and probably more than half our readers! The SINKYs, DINKYs and OBITONs can put up with it. Physchim62 (talk) 03:03, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the study's article? Cargoking talk 12:32, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Which study? Reference please. Which article has been updated? Also, correlation does not imply causality; unless this is comprehensively addressed in the study I don't think we should post it. Modest Genius ^talk 13:31, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is this it? Cargoking talk 13:57, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yep. The P:CE link is under 1 January, as that was the date of publication. The reference to the study is there (the Sleep link, that is the name of the journal). I am looking for suggestions for the best article to update, as I don't think the study deserves an article on it's own – I am more than willing to update an article, but I'd like a bit of feedback first! In terms of correlation-and-cause, the study neatly side-stepped the problem by looking at parental set bedtimes (as opposed to trying to figure out how much sleep teenagers actually got). This obviously can't factor out other social influences (eg, bad parents set bad bedtimes), but the study still seems to be more scientific than most of the "how to educate your teenager" rubbish, and might even be notable just for that! Physchim62 (talk) 19:25, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The story is currently on the BBC News Main Page, although that might say more about the UK than anything else ;) Physchim62 (talk) 20:11, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Have we ever put up the result of a study on ITN before? --Plasma Twa 2 21:36, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Plenty of scientific papers, particularly those announcing the discoveries of planets, dinosaur species and early humans. I can't remember a medical study off the top of my head; it's entirely possible though. As for the BBC news listing, it's still slow news time, there hasn't been much since Christmas (a combination of lack of news and staff being away). Bizarrely, whilst it is listed on their front page, it's the 'Americas' entry, below the fold. Modest Genius ^talk 00:24, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rio mudslides

About 50 people killed in two days. (BBC) Dunno if there's an article yet, but that seems like quite a lot for a natural disaster. Physchim62 (talk) 02:03, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Yes this is a lot. --can dle •wicke 04:56, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SupportI think we should feature this.--yousaf465' 12:29, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is an inadequate stub at 2010 Rio de Janeiro floods and mudslides that I shall try to expand if I can this evening (travel commitments mean that I'm currently at 32 hours without real sleep). Physchim62 (talk) 19:29, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Strong support when it is expanded. Nirvana888 (talk) 01:16, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose given the current state of article, but if it's in better shape then I'll retract my oppose. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 01:31, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Update please Somebody please update it.--yousaf465' 05:47, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm having inspiration failure on this article, so all help is welcome, even if it now meets our minimum standards. Death toll now at 70. Physchim62 (talk) 01:54, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]