Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2007 March 3
March 3
[edit]- Low-quality version of Image:Pio Pico.jpg. howcheng {chat} 01:06, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- H.Chinaski (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- orphaned image, user absent since upload, claim of "web page owner have agreed" but no documentation provided User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 01:13, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Firebird6999 (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 03:45, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Images from the South Australian Media Gallery
[edit]- Beneaththelandslide (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Jasrocks (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Cyberjunkie (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Cyberjunkie (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Cyberjunkie (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Maelgwn (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Maelgwn (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
The source of each of these images points to the South Australian Media Gallery; the license indicated on the image description page of each (except one) says "permission granted for use from SA Tourism's 'library of free images.'" These images, however, are promotional images which could be replaced by a freely-licensed image of acceptable quality. They are not promotional images of a specific event which cannot be repeated; instead, they are promotional images depicting the landscape and cityspace of South Australia, and they could be replaced by a native or tourist there. Per the "Welcome" page and the "Terms of Use" of the South Australian Media Gallery, these images are only freely licensed for "[use] in media stories promoting South Australia as a travel and tourism destination." There is no mention of commercial reuse outside of the media or the travel industry and there is no mention of derivative works. By Wikipedia's standards, these are unfree and, because they are promotional images which could be replaced by a freely-licensed image of acceptable quality, they should be deleted. I list them here in a mass nomination because I believe that there is no possible solution other than deleting them, unless per OTRS communication. I will soon notify the uploaders. —Iamunknown 03:53, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Uploader's notified: [1] [2] [3] [4] —Iamunknown 04:06, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Fair enough, delete all. We already have free alternatives for most of them.--cj | talk 05:04, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Original discussion here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Adelaide/Archive_1#Image_use_from_SA_Tourism that says that permission was sought from SA Tourism. Im not copyright expert but I would like to see these images remain (specifically Wilpena Pound) because they are hard to replace, not just any old tourist collects aerial photos of the pound. ...maelgwntalk 05:17, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- [5] [6] —Iamunknown 06:04, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Can we use these? What is the licencing?? ...maelgwntalk 07:17, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Click the image you are interested in. Look at the right sidebar. Under the heading "Additional Information," the copyright license is stated. All images in the second link are usable (they allow both commercial use and derivatives). I don't know about any of the images in the first link. If you choose to upload one, I'd suggest uploading it to Commons and also thanking the photographer by posting a comment on their photo. --Iamunknown 07:38, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- OK thankyou, may do ...maelgwntalk 00:37, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- Click the image you are interested in. Look at the right sidebar. Under the heading "Additional Information," the copyright license is stated. All images in the second link are usable (they allow both commercial use and derivatives). I don't know about any of the images in the first link. If you choose to upload one, I'd suggest uploading it to Commons and also thanking the photographer by posting a comment on their photo. --Iamunknown 07:38, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Can we use these? What is the licencing?? ...maelgwntalk 07:17, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- [5] [6] —Iamunknown 06:04, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Tenaciousd (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 03:53, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 03:55, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader, User's only upload Nv8200p talk 03:56, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- RavenStorm (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 03:59, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- If you can explain to me what orphaned is I'll support the deletion... RavenStorm 14:38, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Glossary#O --Iamunknown 20:40, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- You have to put it in a page in order to have the image hosted on Wikipedia. Nardman1 20:49, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Glossary#O --Iamunknown 20:40, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, I get it... thus the term "orphaned," I guess the page it was on must've been deleted. Very well, proceed with the deletion. RavenStorm 21:13, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- If you can explain to me what orphaned is I'll support the deletion... RavenStorm 14:38, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Retro junkies (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Absent uploader, Possible Copyright violation Nv8200p talk 04:00, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Carabinieri (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphan Nv8200p talk 04:06, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- No longer orphaned, I've added the image to Oliver Kahn.--Carabinieri 09:48, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Nomination withdrawn -Nv8200p talk 14:17, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- No longer orphaned, I've added the image to Oliver Kahn.--Carabinieri 09:48, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 04:09, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 04:13, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Commons showing through. — Rebelguys2 talk 17:50, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 04:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Celestecox777 (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 04:15, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Aa11ace11aa (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 04:19, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader, User's only upload Nv8200p talk 04:21, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 04:22, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- If there is no copyright issue, then it should be kept. It can be added to the Asiatic Cheetah or Bedouin articles, for example. Slacker (talk) 07:37, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- Judyjowers (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 04:25, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Judyjowers (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 04:25, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Judyjowers (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 04:26, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 04:28, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Phillyfan36 (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 04:29, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Indianinside (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 04:30, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Indianinside (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 04:33, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Indianinside (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 04:33, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Indianinside (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 04:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Indianinside (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 04:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Beneaththelandslide (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- The exact page the image is included in on the domain is unavailable; the notice at the footer of the main page, however, says "Please do not reditribute [sic] the photography on this or any other page," in contrast to the "no rights reserved" image copyright tag currently on the image description page.net. Further it does not qualify for use without permission under fair use because a free equivalent could be created by a local that would adequately provide the same information. Iamunknown 04:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Starprincess534 (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic , Absent uploader, User's only upload Nv8200p talk 04:37, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Beneaththelandslide (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- The copyright information detailed below the image at the source indicates "© 2006-2007" with no mention of any free license. This image does not qualify for fair use because a free alternative that would convey the same information could be feasibly created. Delete Iamunknown 04:44, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Farmydmitri (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 04:45, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Mickeymedia (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 04:46, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Farzon Lotfi (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 04:52, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 04:53, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 04:56, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 04:57, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 04:59, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Orphaned, Low quality, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 05:02, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader, User's only overload Nv8200p talk 05:03, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Lolitapixiechick (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 05:04, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 05:05, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Palimos ng Pag-ibig cast pictures
[edit]- Image:Pnpdiet.jpg, Image:Pnpkristine.jpg, Image:Pnprica.jpg. All uploaded by User:Mikomouse.
Delete all. As you can see, each and every cast members has a pic, leading to a lot of fair use pics in one article when a group photo would suffice. Also, since they're fairly used, there's a lot of them leading to the question if they're "fairly used" after all. Also, the uploaded is a frequent violator and fair use image uploader of ABS-CBN-related images (see his talk page and its history), might as well block him. In fact, I've nominated a similar set a month ago, all uploaded by the uploader. --Howard the Duck 06:12, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Unencyclopedic — 06:10, 3 March 2007 (UTC).
- Saintrotter (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
Also Image:Mamintbetter.png Nardman1 21:25, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Pretty redundant and not needed since we have Image:Mamintb.PNG. And it's a JPEG image, so it's quite bad quality. --AAA! (AAAA) 06:22, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- I disagree. My picture is better. Since we need such a picture on the "tit wank" page, my picture shows the cum better and the woman looks more feminine and sexy, remember black IS sexy. If you would like I could make it into a PNG file so we can have this wonderful picture HIGH quality. --Saintrotter
- You could just, after consulting the uploader to see if s/he agrees, upload a "sexy" version over the filename Image:Mamintb.PNG --Iamunknown 07:11, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Strong delete. This image is the result of an argument on the talk page of Mammary intercourse over whether the current image is racist. User:Saintrotter is disrupting Wikipedia to make a WP:POINT. Either that or he's being blatantly racist. Nardman1 08:07, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Strong delete Saintrotter has, either knowingly or not, created a very racist picture that is, in any case, greatly inferior in quality to the one that he is attempting to replace. The point of the picture is NOT to "show the cum better". Personally, I think the picture would be better without the money shot, but even if it is there, it should not be emphasized any more than it presently is. The name of the article is "mammary intercourse", NOT "Money shot". Hayford Peirce 16:10, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Pharaoh Hound (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- I should have been told that the image that i uploaded was being edited and re-uploaded under a new name and under the uploaders name, as if they have took the picture. — ACBestMy Contributions 10:40, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- I am sorry that I did not notify you, I was not aware that you would have desired this. I must admit, it was a rather bad mistake of mine to credit the picture as if the original were my own, I was working with tabs (in firefox) and was upoading several files to the commons and I must have got confused. I am more than happy to modify the image description to reflect more accurately upon its source. If you wish to delete it, so be it. But I would ask that I be allowed to upload Image:Clio.JPG (without modifying the source information) to the wikimedia commons, so it may be shared among other wikis. --Pharaoh Hound (talk) 13:02, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE HAS BEEN LEFT ON THE UPLOADERS TALK PAGE
- OK! Apoligy accepted! Could you edit your photo and also i grant you the permission (or my dog does!) to upload her picture Clio.JPG to the wikimedia commons! Many Thanks, ACBestMy Contributions 19:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- From now on realize that "If you don't want your [contributions including images] to be edited mercilessly or redistributed by others, do not submit [them]." --Iamunknown 20:24, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- I am sorry that I did not notify you, I was not aware that you would have desired this. I must admit, it was a rather bad mistake of mine to credit the picture as if the original were my own, I was working with tabs (in firefox) and was upoading several files to the commons and I must have got confused. I am more than happy to modify the image description to reflect more accurately upon its source. If you wish to delete it, so be it. But I would ask that I be allowed to upload Image:Clio.JPG (without modifying the source information) to the wikimedia commons, so it may be shared among other wikis. --Pharaoh Hound (talk) 13:02, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Nomination withdrawn. Setteled! ACBestMy Contributions 19:40, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- Orchardbank (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Absent uploader, copyright disputed. Fritz S. (Talk) 11:21, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Bridgeyouth (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Absent uploader, watermarked (violates WP:IUP). Fritz S. (Talk) 12:04, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- HelterSkelter88 (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- not created by uploader. See User_talk:AnemoneProjectors/Archive_4#Charlie_G._Hawkins. Fritz S. (Talk) 12:33, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 17:27, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- This image has some conflicting licensing claims. The text added by the uploader includes "Copyright holder: V.A. Watts Please do not edit this file or use it for commercial purposes in any way." and then the uploader (who appears to be the copyright holder) adds a GFDL license. The image is being used, but it is part of a gallery of simmilar, but unique, images. Given the uploader's obvious text, this image is not "Wikipedia free" and is not providing any information in the article not available by the other images. User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 13:12, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ramavijay1853 (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- orphaned image, user absent since upload, small and low quality User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 14:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Loserboy0711 (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- orphaned image, sole contribution of user, unencyclopedic personal photo User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 14:15, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- orphaned image and I question the PD-self claim User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 14:19, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Tagged as redundant as found duplicate copy that is in use.--User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 14:20, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- orphaned image, insufficent information to determine an encyclopedic use User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 14:23, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- orpahned image, unencyclopedi personal photo User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 14:25, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- orphaned image, unencyclopedic logo used on deleted band pag User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 14:25, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- BenjaminPhilipB (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- orphaned image, unencyclopedic personal photo User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 14:28, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Avenged metallica (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- orphaned image, unencyclopedic personal photo User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 14:29, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ash slayer (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- orphaned image, conflicting licening information as text states "Image may be used to promote or write about the band, but may not be changed or modified in any way." but GFDL tag applied. User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 14:33, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- orphaned image, low quality User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 14:35, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- orphaned image, low quality, not identical to above User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 14:36, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- orphaned image, unencyclopedic personal photo User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 14:37, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- orphaned image, questionalbe PD-self claim given website watermark on image User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 14:38, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- orphaned, lower quality cropped version of previous nomination with watermark User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 14:39, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- orphaned image, questionable PD-self license claim User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 14:40, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- orphaned image, very low quality, questionable PD-self license claim User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 14:41, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- orphaned image, watermarked with website, questionable PD-self license claim User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 14:42, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- orphaned image, the complation has no encyclopedic use, and I question the licensing of the underlying images (tho I have not tagged those as I am WP:AGF) User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 14:48, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- orphaned image, watermarked with copyright holder so question the PD-self claim User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 14:49, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- DitherShadow (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, watermarked, license disputed. Fritz S. (Talk) 14:49, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- orphaned image, question PD-self claim given the image is watermarked with corporate logo User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 14:50, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- orpahned image, unencyclopedic personal photo User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 14:51, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Misskandarking (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, dubious source, license disputed. Fritz S. (Talk) 14:54, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Orphaned, Absent uploader, license disputed. Fritz S. (Talk) 14:57, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Rostom1992 (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- orphaned image, unencyclopedic personal photo User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 15:02, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete problems with this image are a) not used in any article, b)violates WP:CHild; (image has not been previosuly published) c) copyright violation; the subject uploaded the image, but copyright belongs to photographer - fair use was stated, but no satisfactory fair use rationale is provided. d) Notability not established for the subject of this photograph; it is highly unlikely that it will ever be used in any wikipedia article, and (as mentioned above) it would be a violation of WP:Child to use it in user space. Jerry lavoie 15:47, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'm deleting it for lack of licensing and for being unused. Since WP:CHILD is inactive, and was never policy, it would not be a reason to delete a correctly licensed image in user space. —Angr 16:47, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- I accidentally misnamed the image as "1,1,2-Trichloroethene.svg" instead of "1,1,2-Trichloroethane.svg". I have now uploaded the image under the correct name, w:Image:1,1,2-Trichloroethane.svg, but this needs to be deleted. Thanks! — Sbrools (talk . contribs) 15:27, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- UnderPressure (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- CV: Based on the style and graphics of this map, it looks more like a crop from an image generated by mapquest.com. Since all content from mapquest.com is copyrighted, [7] I recommend that this image be deleted to be on the safe side. — Zzyzx11 (Talk) 15:44, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, only contrib (sans redundant image), WP:NOT a Free File Host MECU≈talk 18:55, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- UE; possibly CV (comes straight from a sports talk website) — Esrever 19:22, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Hismattness (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- orphaned image, unencyclopedic personal photo (if actually self created) User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 19:25, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Hismattness (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- orphaned image, low quality, insuffecent information to determine encyclopedic use User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 19:26, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- orphaned image, sole contribution of user, low quality, unencyclopedic personal photo User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 19:28, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- orphaned image User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 19:29, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- orpahned image, uploader absent since upload, questionable PD-self given claim in text of "Original CGI artwork created by Pony R. Horton" User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 19:33, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Image:Sfdam collapse.jpg is the same with a higher resolution, so this one can be speedied per WP:CSD#I1. --Fritz S. (Talk) 23:39, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- Harleywolves (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- orphaned image, uploader absent since upload, question PD-self license tag User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 19:38, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader, User's only upload Nv8200p talk 20:04, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader, I don't see J. Lo. Do you? Nv8200p talk 20:06, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader Nv8200p talk 20:07, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Itsmefeffy (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic, Absent uploader, User's only upload Nv8200p talk 20:08, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 20:11, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. It's okay delete it. The page that it was on, was also deleted. Zazzer 20:13, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- CanadianCaesar (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic — Deltabeignet 20:16, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep it was removed from the article by the nominator who didn't bother touching the talk page where the picture is discussed, and is still on the talk page for consideration. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 08:10, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep bad faith nomination Nardman1 18:09, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- Please assume good faith. --Iamunknown 20:18, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- First he removes it from the article [8] then lists it for deletion with the reason "orphaned"? How can I possibly assume good faith under those circumstances? Nardman1 20:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- Maybe you aren't familiar with WP:AGF. Plase consider reading it again. In particular, please consider the phrase, "...we must assume that most people who work on the project are trying to help it, not hurt it." --Iamunknown 00:11, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- Beg pardon. I removed it with the intention of listing it as unencyclopedic, then dual-listed it when I realized it fit both categories. (That's how you could assume good faith.) Deltabeignet 04:44, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- First he removes it from the article [8] then lists it for deletion with the reason "orphaned"? How can I possibly assume good faith under those circumstances? Nardman1 20:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- Please assume good faith. --Iamunknown 20:18, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep until consensus achieved on talk page. I also recommend everyone taking a chill pill. --MECU≈talk 22:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- Image kept. Nominate again in the future if necessary. -Nv8200p talk 18:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Mistakenly uploaded, plan on using a different photo, please delete
- Porsche997SBS (notify | contribs). - uploaded by
- This image is essentially a copy of the 24 logo displayed at http://www.fox.com/24/ and it is currently labeled as in the public domain. If this image is changed to fair use, it will have to be deleted under CSD-I5, since this image is only being used on userboxes. — 24fan24 (talk) 21:21, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Withdrawn - I think there is a better solution as to remove it from the user boxes and allow the image to retain its public domain status. --24fan24 (talk) 19:12, 4 March 2007 (UTC)- I withdraw my withdrawal. --24fan24 (talk) 20:38, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- As I mentioned on my talk page, the image can't be PD just because it's not being used in a user box or not. It either is or isn't. I recommend the withdrawal of the nomination not be accepted. An admin needs to decide whether this image is PD or not. Nardman1 19:41, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. This {{pd-ineligible}} for reasons I have placed on the image page. Nardman1 18:22, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete Responding to your rationale there, nobody owns the letters "g" "o" "o" "g" "l" "e" either. Yet, Google has certainly taken pains to copyright its logo. No, the company can not prevent a clock from displaying "24". But, to use this particular combination of numbers, in the particular format it is using, with the color being used, and then to place the image on userboxe that specfically have to do with the Fox program 24, it's a blatant copyright violation. Any assertion otherwise is provably false. Further, the use of such a copyright violation on a userbox provides no benefit to the project while placing it a hardly desirable legal situation. No value to the project + risky and blatantly obvious copyright situation = automatic delete. --Durin 04:22, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- What if I take a picture of my clock? Nardman1 03:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- What if? Does it have a trademarked and possibly copyrighted logo on it? Is it used in a userbox? Then delete it. Is it used for an encyclopaedic purpose and cannot feasibly be replaced by a free-er (in a copyrights- and trademarks-sense) image? Then keep it. I'm afraid that this image qualifies as the former, so delete it. --Iamunknown 01:07, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- So if I have a clock with a yellow LED and a black background and I take a picture of it at a certain time of day and release it as pd-self it'll still be violating their copyright? Does my clock violate their copyright once an hour every day? What if I take a whole picture of my bedroom? Nardman1 02:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Same answer (actually a question) as before: is the clock a copyrighted and/or trademarked logo? Or, is it one created to look as similar as possible to a copyrighted and/or trademarked logo? Is it used in a misleadingly similar way to a copyrighted and/or trademarked logo? Then yes it could quite possibly be a copyright violation. And, guess what? This image is exactly that: an image, created to look as similar as possible to a logo that we know is trademarked and certainly may be copyrighted, used in a misleadingly similar way to said logo. Delete it. --Iamunknown 05:05, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- So if I have a clock with a yellow LED and a black background and I take a picture of it at a certain time of day and release it as pd-self it'll still be violating their copyright? Does my clock violate their copyright once an hour every day? What if I take a whole picture of my bedroom? Nardman1 02:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- What if? Does it have a trademarked and possibly copyrighted logo on it? Is it used in a userbox? Then delete it. Is it used for an encyclopaedic purpose and cannot feasibly be replaced by a free-er (in a copyrights- and trademarks-sense) image? Then keep it. I'm afraid that this image qualifies as the former, so delete it. --Iamunknown 01:07, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- What if I take a picture of my clock? Nardman1 03:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- Actually this is not a copyright, it is a trademark. See [9] [10] [11] [12]. Note that trademarks must be held not just for the mark but a certain use. Fox does not hold a trademark on the use of the numbers 2 and 4 in a userbox or on an encyclopedia and their use of the mark on computers is limited to games. This particular image was USER CREATED. It does not violate the copyrighted Fox image of a 24 nor does it violate any of the uses they have trademarked. Nardman1 23:01, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- Apparently direct linking to trademark searches does not work. Try searching for 24 and they'll show up. Nardman1 23:04, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- Comment: And we're supposed to place ourselves at risk so a userbox can look pretty. <cough> --Durin 04:20, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
- Apparently direct linking to trademark searches does not work. Try searching for 24 and they'll show up. Nardman1 23:04, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per Durin and per Google box precedent —Iamunknown 18:59, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep - Ineligible for copyright as contains negligible creative work. Could be trademarked, but not copyrighted. —dgiestc 23:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep per Dgies. It didn't come from their logo, and there are distinct differences between the fonts used. --MECU≈talk 22:12, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- (Expanding on my previous comment.) This, whether or not it is a "negligible work," comes very very close to being a copyright, or at least a trademark, violation. Why bother with it? Why jeopardize Wikipedia for the sake of a userbox? What point is there? Delete it. The precedent is there: User:Menasim/Userboxes/User Google and the accompanying talk page. Some say that this image is not a "derivative" of the 24 logo; but to deny that there are distinct similarities between it and the logo is false and disingenuous. The reason some users feel that it is needed is specifically so that they can have an image that is as near to the logo as is possible without being the logo itself. It is at most copyrighted, at least trademarked, derivative image that is used to identify 24. Well, guess what? The logo for 24 is at most copyrighted, at least trademarked, and used to identify 24. You cannot get any closer to a derivative work than that. Thus, per consensus and my arguments, I argue for the strongest possible deletion. Please, to the closing admin, consider the arguments, not the sentimental pleas of WP:ILIKEIT. This image is as close to a copyright and trademark violation as you can get; and there is simply no point for it except to make a userbox look pretty. --Iamunknown 02:26, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
- The image was nominated for deletion. The image was kept as it is stylistically different from the 24 logo of the TV series. The 24 in this image are just standard yellow seven segment displays on a black back ground. The image's numbers are straight up and down compared to the logo's slight tilt to the numbers. The image's number segments are symetrical compared to the asymmetrical logo segments. There is also a highlight on the inner upper part of the 2 and 4 in the logo that is not present in the image. There is no creative element in the image as there is in the logo. There are yellow LCD displays and the number 24 would appear in the time 3:24. -Nv8200p talk 18:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Orphaned, used only on deleted spam page. RJASE1 Talk 21:30, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Obsolete, orphan. —Remember the dot (t) 21:59, 3 March 2007 (UTC)