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Image:Billcommand.JPG (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Foxie McCloud (notify | contribs).
Image:BilsdaleB1257-1.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Mazeteam (notify | contribs).
Image:BilsdaleTVmast1.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Mazeteam (notify | contribs).
Image:BimaG_Kickflip_BS_Tailslide.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Telanjanggmail (notify | contribs).
Image:Biography_of_William_Holmes.pdf (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Webduck (notify | contribs).
Image:Birkebeiner_Start_2007.JPG (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Ansc1023 (notify | contribs).
Image:Birthcertificate.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Andrew Parodi (notify | contribs).
Image:444px-Johnny Yong Bosch.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by WolfLord718 (notify | contribs).
Image:Bitbangalore.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Darcwader (notify | contribs).
Image:Startrackcrew.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Cfauteux (notify | contribs).
Image:Startrack.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Cfauteux (notify | contribs).
Image:Fredthompsonwatergate.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Stills64 (notify | contribs).
Image:Praying hands.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Remiel (notify | contribs).
Note: Uploader not notified, as he or she has exercised the right to vanish and consequently the user talk page has been deleted [1]. —Bkell (talk) 03:52, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Image:Pooh.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Nv8200p (notify | contribs).
Image deleted As a derivative, the image was not being used in a manner that passed WP:NFCC. -Nv8200p talk 00:13, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Remaining ship and submarine photos used only by permission

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The following photos are used only by permission and do not have a clear claim to fair use. If any user feels that one of them would qualify for fair use, they are welcome to scale down the image and write a rationale for it. —Remember the dot (talk) 04:56, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:HMS Achilles (Leander-class frigate).jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by SoLando (notify | contribs).
Image:HMS Apollo F70 (Leander-class frigate).jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by SoLando (notify | contribs).
Image:HMS Avenger (F185) with RFA Fort Austin (A386).jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by Gdr (notify | contribs).
Image:HMS Cardiff D108 (Type 42 destroyer).jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by SoLando (notify | contribs).
Image:HMS Challenger.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by Hammersfan 1 (notify | contribs).
Image:HMS Danae F47 (Leander-class frigate).jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by SoLando (notify | contribs).
Image:HMS Diomede (Leander-class frigate).jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by SoLando (notify | contribs).
Image:HMS Gurkha F122 (Tribal-class frigate).jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by SoLando (notify | contribs).
Image:HMS Jersey (P295).jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by SoLando (notify | contribs).
Image:HMS Leeds Castle (P258).jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by SoLando (notify | contribs).
Image:HMS Newcastle D87 (Type 42 destroyer).jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by SoLando (notify | contribs).
Image:HMS Penelope F127 (Leander-class frigate).jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by SoLando (notify | contribs).
Image:HMS Tartar F133 (Tribal-class frigate).jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by SoLando (notify | contribs).
Image:HMS Upholder S40.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by Lord Bob (notify | contribs).
Image:Hms-antrim-d18.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by David Newton (notify | contribs).
Image:Rfa-appleleaf-a79.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by David Newton (notify | contribs).
Image:Rfa-bluerover-a270.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by David Newton (notify | contribs).
Image:Rfa-greenrover-a268.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by David Newton (notify | contribs).
Image:Rfa-greyrover-a269.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by David Newton (notify | contribs).
Image:Rfa-reliant-a131.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by David Newton (notify | contribs).
Image:Rfa-sircaradoc-l3522.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by David Newton (notify | contribs).
Image:Rfa-spapool-a222.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by David Newton (notify | contribs).
Image:Rfa-tarbatness-a345.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by David Newton (notify | contribs).
Image:Rfa-tidespring-a75.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by David Newton (notify | contribs).
Image:Rfa-wavelaird-a119.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by David Newton (notify | contribs).
Image:Rfa-wavesovereign-a211.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by David Newton (notify | contribs).
Image:Rfatidepool(A76).jpg (delete|talk|history|logs)- uploaded by David Newton (notify | contribs).
Image:Nana Morimura.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Jie (notify | contribs).
Image:JohannesKornfeld04.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Ivan2004 (notify | contribs).
Image:Itsrainingmenpic.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Hotwiki (notify | contribs).
Image:Miraclevideo.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Max24 (notify | contribs).
Image:Bloc_Party_-_Bernau_2007.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Wwfc 1877 (notify | contribs).
Image:Transistor signal.png (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Ksd5 (notify | contribs).
  • It has nothing to do with transformers, and is just a copy of the Image:Bitmap VS SVG.svg file, with no GIMP/INKSCAPE titles, and it changed to have transistor-related captions that make no sense, considering it's not about transistors. It also has a very ugly copyright information bit at the bottom. This is not used anywhere, and I see no way it could possibly be used. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 10:21, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Commons showing through. -Nv8200p talk 00:13, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Image:LKS_cast.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Kingkida (notify | contribs).
Image:LA_Law.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by HeMan5 (notify | contribs).
This image is used for identification purpsoses, the article IS about a TV show is it not?! What free images could you find to replace this with, pray tell?!? This is a copyrighted TV show, if there are free images why haven't you uploaded them, instead of just pointing it out. Why don't you make yourself useful instead of just deleting imagesHeMan5 16:23, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Now-now, try to remain civil. Non-free images of living persons are not allowed to be used for identification purposes, especially if the actors and actresses are still alive and one can reasonably expect free images to be (or become) available. I vote delete. Anrie 16:57, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Image:LS_first_gen_testing.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Enigma3542002 (notify | contribs).
  • Back in November, I deemed this image non-replaceable, since it depicts the initial testing of this vehicle before its mass production. However, I now doubt it passed NFCC#8. Any opinions would be appreciated. – Quadell (talk) (random) 13:57, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
In consideration of NFCC#8, Significance, I acknowledge your concerns that the non-free image available may possibly be unnecessary. I am therefore replacing that image with a free image that I have recently made available. Enigma3542002 23:10, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yay! I love hearing that. – Quadell (talk) (random) 01:32, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Image:Seasonthree2.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Jwebby91 (notify | contribs).
  • High-res non-free photo of the cast of a show. Could be replaced by free images of the actors, or, if that is for some reason impossible, with screenshot(s) of the fictional characters, which would be only a small percentage of a copyrighted work as opposed to 100% of a non-free image. — Videmus Omnia 13:58, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Image:LUhistory2.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Alberto Fernandez (notify | contribs).
Image:LWord_Cast.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Klinean (notify | contribs).
  • Simply shows actresses. Used decoratively (and boy is it decorative!) in the article. I can't say it shows nothing that free images of the actresses wouldn't show, but it shows nothing encyclopedic that free images wouldn't show. ;-) – Quadell (talk) (random) 14:04, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Image:LCS4-cast.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Vossman (notify | contribs).
Image:LERSUS_MMS_Scheme.JPG (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Dmitri Andreychenko (notify | contribs).
  • Used decoratively -- I think. It's hard to tell how it's being used. Anyway, it's not necessary in the article. (Someone should look through the other non-free images in the article as well.) – Quadell (talk) (random) 14:19, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Image:Isktre.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Theory of deadman (notify | contribs).
Image:Design for Generalissimo of the Soviet Union.GIF (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Dvobgo92 (notify | contribs).
  • That sounds like a problem that should be fixed, not a problem that requires deletion. Isn't pre 195..whenever Stalin died Soviet stuff now of expired copyright anyhow? WilyD 19:19, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I ask this image to be deleted because i already fix the problem and we don't need another copy of marshal of hte soviet union insigina.

Snake BGDtalk 09:26, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Bhungra.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Zohaibhsn (notify | contribs).
Image:He_ate_me_by_suzi9mm.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Dainethecook (notify | contribs).
Image:Jr_259.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Steverobles (notify | contribs).
Image:McClure_.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by FreeTibet (notify | contribs).
Image:MHerrington_transit.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Buron444 (notify | contribs).
Image:P9100716.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by AStudent (notify | contribs).
Image:DSC_2535.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by AStudent (notify | contribs).
Image:Msu-um-2001b.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by AStudent (notify | contribs).
Image:DSC_2961.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by AStudent (notify | contribs).
Image:DSC_5048.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by AStudent (notify | contribs).
Image:JoshTurnerWouldyougowithmevideocap.JPG (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Camcallister (notify | contribs).
  • This non-free music video screenshot is being used only for decorative purposes. There is no critical commentary on it whatsoever. Also, lacking a fair use rationale. howcheng {chat} 17:09, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Image:NYlphieconvention.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Skandalicious (notify | contribs).



Image:NYL_Ryo_Design.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Bakahito (notify | contribs).
Image:NYLVANCLOTHS.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Bakahito (notify | contribs).
Image:Kilsythmap.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Mahobaly (notify | contribs).
Image:Stick jump 4-14-07 youtube safe0001.gif (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Good friend100 (notify | contribs).
Image:Allison_Janney.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by BCV (notify | contribs).
  • Previously nominated a year ago and closed by me as a keep. However, the intervening time span, it has become clear to me that {{promotional}} is the most abused image template. Without proof that it comes from a press kit (and not just nbc.com), this image has to go. Recommend replacement with a still frame from an episode. howcheng {chat} 19:33, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep it does seem like a promo photo and as it's no longer used on the site we are in no way competing with their interest of drawing visitors to their site. -N 03:24, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep too much baseless paranoia involving the promo tag, sure there is some abuse but when you can clearly see that these photo's were released to promote the show it should not be an issue. Used in publications at the time of the West Wing was in production such as TV guide and websites that reference the show such as Yahoo TV when it was on the air. These images are not copyrighted to the extent that it is illegal for wikipedia to use them. BCV 01:29, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Prove it. Find a link to somewhere on NBC.com that says the images on its web site can be used by anyone in order to promote its shows. Unforunately, you can't, because their terms of use state, "You may not modify, copy, reproduce, republish, upload, post, transmit, publicly display, prepare derivative works based on, or distribute in any way any material from the Service." howcheng {chat} 17:56, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. While we can claim fair use from a TV screenshot, we can't go ripping photos off of someone's website. If NBC is using these images to attract visitors to their website, then our use directly competes with their's. That's not fair use. --BigΔT 02:21, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • As stated on the image description the West Wing page on the NBC site is no longer live. The image is not in fact being used on the NBC site. -N 19:25, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Change to delete I was fooled by the archive.org url on the image description page. There is in fact a West Wing page still on nbc.com, and while this photo doesn't seem to be on it at the moment, NBC as the copyright holder could change it back. I recommend using a less-infringing self made screencap. -N 00:19, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Image:Large-msg-114133105702-2.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Pantscraper2 (notify | contribs).
Image:Mohamed_Abdelaziz_of_Western_Sahara.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Koavf (notify | contribs).
Image:Jtband.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Azthetik (notify | contribs).
Image:Pa_rbd_latin_07.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Surebuddywhat00 (notify | contribs).


Image:BendigoRaidersIceHockey.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Akunadigital (notify | contribs).
Image:G8 2006 leaders.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Siqbal (notify | contribs).
Image:Bahamas 8 138.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by beebins (notify | contribs).
  • Unencyclopedic
Image:Miss_Universe_winning.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by And1987 (notify | contribs).
Caution:This discussion is in danger of derailing.
Because how else are you going to show what she looked like when she was crowned? This How else are you going to fully "get" the sour look on Zuleyka's face? How are you going to know in 50 years what the 2007 Miss Universe winner looked like, how she was styled, what sort of gown she wore, what the crown was like, what the backdrop for the pageant was like? This is the most important moment of her life and there are many facets to the image that cannot be accurately illustrated by words. Not only that, it is highly important for the Miss Universe 2007 article. PageantUpdater 21:24, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This was discussed in the previous IFDs, where the decision was to delete the images. I understand you feel the decision was "clearly wrong"[2], but it doesn't mean I'm available to repeat the whole discussion again. --Abu badali (talk) 22:57, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Read the AFD - the consensus was clearly that it met NFC 1 even if the closing admin disagreed - more than a few editors suggested at the DR that consensus had not been followed. The DR hinged on the fact that the images failed NFC 2, but I believe you can fix that by greatly reducing the size and quality of the image as I think was suggested in this or maybe one of the other IFDs. PageantUpdater 02:16, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The whole issue with this idf and the previous ones is #8. --Abu badali (talk) 03:09, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies. I was getting my numbers mixed up... as I was trying to explain before there was general consensus as to that fact that it met NFC 8 (not 1), but the real issue was NFC 2. As I have explained numerous times, one way to radically reduce he commerical value of this image is to resize it and reduce the quality, as suggested in one of the IFDs. PageantUpdater 03:13, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
PS you are basing this IFD on #8. The IFD discussion specifically developed consensus that the image did meet NFC 8. 03:17, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
That's innacurate. The images were deleted (and the deletion were endorsed) exactly because the arguments that they passed #8 were ultimately considered unconvincing. --Abu badali (talk) 03:34, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The decision was clearly wrong. Anyone with a brain reading the IFD would come to the conclusion that there was consensus that crowning images pass NFC 8. Many people in the DR suggested that the wrong decision had been made: "Overturn I am a bit shocked of how the clear, reasonable consensus in keeping the image was not followed at all. A discussion was made on if the image would violate NFCC #8, and a wide consensus was found in support of the fact that this picture is significant for the beauty pageant article, probably even the only one to be really significant in it. ", "Overturn. One admin should not decide that an image fails #8. The fact that many more people disagreed with him in that did not matter, it seems", "If the image was used properly in the article, I believe it would meet NFCC #8". The decision of the closing admin did not match the discussion in the IFD, and should not override it. You have a brain, use it. PageantUpdater 04:43, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Image:Japanese_ethnic.PNG (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Coojah (notify | contribs).
Image:Filipino_2.JPG (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Coojah (notify | contribs).
Image:Filipino_Ethnic.PNG (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Coojah (notify | contribs).
Image:Saab2000eastern.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Rawky123 (notify | contribs).
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Image:Northeastendlandj41.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Rawky123 (notify | contribs).