Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2006 December 23

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December 23

Three fair-use userbox images (Image:TSVuserbox.jpg: talk | delete) (Image:ByronOrpheusUserbox.png: talk | delete) (Image:VBMonarchUserbox.png: talk | delete)

All three images are tagged as fair-use TV screenshots, but they're clearly created for userboxes. Uploader claims to have left Wikipedia. Zetawoof^(ζ) 07:21, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

• FYI, anyone can remove a non-free image from userspace. You should leave an edit summary like, "removing non-free image - fair use images are only permitted in article space per WP:FAIR" and if it's from a userbox, it's a good idea to put a period or the first letter of the TV show or something in there so that it doesn't break their user page ... but anyone can do that. Also, if the image is not being used in any articles, it can just be tagged with template:orfud (be sure to subst it) - it doesn't actually have to be brought here to be deleted. BigDT 14:05, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Kohanim hands blessing photo.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by unknown (notify | contribs). The image page says, Self-made, own hands. I'm not Jewish, so apologies if I did it wrong. I just followed the picture. I have no problem with the not Jewish part, but the rest of it sounds like the creator of this image doesn't really know what it's supposed to look like and was just guessing. That's one part WP:OR and one part failure to meet WP:V. — -- RoySmith (talk) 01:54, 23 December 2006 (UTC).

• That image is on Commons, not on Wikipedia. Please see Commons:Commons:Deletion requests if you would like to ask for it to be deleted. BigDT 04:17, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, that must explain why I couldn't find the name of the user who uploaded it on the image page. Thanks. Do WP:OR and WP:V apply to creative commons? I'm assuming not, in which case I guess my issue is not so much against the image, but against its use in wikipedia articles. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:00, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Commons deletes things that have no potential use in any Wikimedia project ... but the fact that it is currently right now, today, in use is considered evidence that it is useful. It actually is used more than just on en - see [1]. It is used on Hebrew Wikipedia [2], which I suppose means it isn't but so bad. ;) --BigDT 13:34, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, I can appreciate that deleting it from commons would not be the right thing to do because commons doesn't have WP:OR and WP:V as policy. Still, the image doesn't (in my opinion) meet either standard. The fact that it is popular doesn't make it a reliable source. Nor does the fact that it is used in a project where one would like to assume the editors would be subject matter experts. So what now? Should I just unlink it from all the places on en where it is used and let it go at that? -- RoySmith (talk) 17:17, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

In the case of well-maintained articles, I would suggest discussing it on the talk page first to make sure that there is consensus to remove it. If the article is unmaintained or undermaintained and has little activity on the talk page, just be bold and remove it, but be sure to explain why in the edit summary. BigDT 01:31, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Those articles all already have pointers to this discussion. Presumably anybody who was interested would have come here already and voiced their opinion. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:01, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Keep in mind, I'm not trying to argue in favor of or against the removal of this image - I really have no opinion on the issue as it is outside the purview of IFD - I just answered the question that you asked to the best of my ability. As in most things on Wikipedia, if you believe the image should be removed, be bold and remove it. ;) BigDT 05:18, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Delete. The picture is not making any point. Tonytypoon 17:41, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Wikiptan.jpg

Unknown uploader. Image fills dozens upon dozens of album pages. Twas Now 03:24, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

This is an image on Commons. Its speedy deletion has been requested there. —Centrx→talk • 03:27, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Zachary molinaro.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Molinaro86 (notify | contribs). Soon to be an orphan, image uploaded for a vanity page Zach molinaro BigDT 03:27, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Delete not myspace. Xiner (talk, email) 15:53, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Delete. The picture is not displaying any significance. Tonytypoon 17:43, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Photo 31.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Sewaneeshaner (notify | contribs). OR, UE, user's only contribution BigDT 04:16, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Delete per nom. Xiner (talk, email) 15:53, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Association good.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Horatio the hermit (notify | contribs). OR, obviously someone's logo, so either unencyclopedic or non-free BigDT 04:25, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Transwkii to Commons. Xiner (talk, email) 15:54, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - there is not enough information about its source or license for it to be moved to commons.--Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr.) 02:54, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Delete - This image is an insensible combination of "A". Tonytypoon 17:32, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Whichvoip logo1.gif (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Marconetech (notify | contribs). OR, spam BigDT 04:25, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

• delete - re-tagged as fair use given information from source provided - tagged as orphaned fair use.--Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr.) 02:59, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Fokdrawball.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by MiguelNL (notify | contribs). OR, I'm not even going to try to guess what this is BigDT 04:44, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Delete per nom. Xiner (talk, email) 15:54, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

'Delete - Image does not make sense. Tonytypoon 18:06, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:GSright2.JPG (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Wraithwing (notify | contribs). OR, UE BigDT 04:49, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Delete per nom. Xiner (talk, email) 15:55, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Unicursalhexagram2.JPG (talk | delete)

Uploaded by FK0071a (notify | contribs). Unicursalhexagram2.JPG - obsoleted by Solid unicursal hexagram.svg. — Elembis 06:45, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Delete per nom. Xiner (talk, email) 15:55, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Delete - This symbol has no widely accepted meaning. Tonytypoon 17:45, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Unicursalhexagram.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Ashami (notify | contribs). Unicursalhexagram.jpg - obsoleted by Crowley unicursal hexagram.svg. — Elembis 06:46, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Delete per nom. Xiner (talk, email) 15:55, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Unicursalhex1.JPG (talk | delete)

Uploaded by FK0071a (notify | contribs). Unicursalhex1.JPG - obsoleted by Interwoven unicursal hexagram.svg. — Elembis 06:49, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Balaannanswiss_2.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Rajsingam (notify | contribs). Unencyclopedic — Oden 07:21, 23 December 2006 (UTC).

• Delete - Because no pages on the English Wikipedia link to this file. Tonytypoon 18:08, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Sgodspeed0069.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Angular (notify | contribs). I uploaded it under the wrong name, and thought it renamed it. It doesn't seem so. The correct one is in use. Please delete this due to duality. — AngulaR 08:49, 23 December 2006 (UTC).

Delete per nom. Xiner (talk, email) 15:52, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

• Tagged as {{db-author}} per uploader's comments above.--Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr.) 23:20, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Northern Expedition.jpg

The value of this promophoto for the articles using it is questionable because this promophoto is not produced during the events, but far later. So I suspect that it can be used under fairuse--Philopp 12:23, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

• If you propose to delete this pic, you should prove it is not in fair use. We just don't care whether you "suspect" a photo is valuable or not. This pic is from the site of the Memorial Hall of Ching kai-Shek which only purpose is to introduce the life of the man to the general public, and Section 107 of US copyright act sets out four factors to be considered in determining whether or not a particular use is fair:
• 1 the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
• 2 the nature of the copyrighted work;
• 3 amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
• 4 the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

The distinction between “fair use” and infringement may be unclear and not easy; but here at least ;it is clear. If you donnot undertand what 'copyright' is ;please just let it go. thanks.--VVVing 12:47, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the comments "We just don't care whether you "suspect" a photo is valuable or not." and "If you donnot undertand what 'copyright' is ;please just let it go." posted by User:VVVing, see Wikipedia:Civility. --Oden 13:19, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - Wikipedia's policy is more restrictive than the US law and this obviously fails criterion 1 - replaceability. If it were a photo ... ok ... but it's a drawing or painting being used to illustrate the subject of the artwork, rather than the work itself. It also fails criterion #10 of WP:FAIR in that the description page give us no notion of who the copyright holder is and as of right now, I can't get to the source website (don't know if it's just a bad link or down right now or inaccessible outside of Taiwan). Thus, there's no way for us to confirm that this image qualifies for fair use. But judging from the URL, that image comes from the government of Taiwan, not the PRC. So it would almost certainly not qualify for fair use to illustrate China. Just grabbing a random work off of the internet doesn't make it fair use. BigDT 13:59, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - per BigDT, fair use images of paintings should be used to illustrate article text which discusses that painting. --Oden 14:02, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

{{promophoto}} {{Politicalposter}}

The source link is here: http://www.cksmh.gov.tw/cks/eduweb-utf8/english/index.php?menu_ID=3&page_ID=c3-2-3

The declaration of copyright is here(in chinese) : http://www.cksmh.gov.tw/cks/eduweb-utf8/tw/index.php?menu_ID=1&page_ID=private1 "二、在限於個人及非商業目的的情況下，使用者可依智慧財產權法律之相關規範，自由瀏覽及使用本網站，或下載本網站上明示提供下載之相關資料，惟公開時需註明出處。"

Considering the nature of the source-site and the pic; its usage in Wiki is nothing but a typical case of "fair use".

User:BigDT ignore that Taiwan is nothing but the Republic of CHINA ,and the pic "illustrates the person(s), product, event, or subject in question " ,which is the ancient president of that country.

User:Oden believes the pic is a "painting" ;but it is a "copyrighted publicity photograph" or "a political poster" (whatever it is , it is no longer a painting )from a website whose purpose is to introduce these photos to the general public.

I do think it's enough clear. thanks!

--VVVing 14:50, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, this is a painting, not a photograph. The source website you gave - [3] - says, "Paintings in the Main Corridor". A promotional photo is legitimate when a company or organization distributes a photo of their product or personel to the media in order to sell their product (like a CD, chick-fil-a sandwiches, whatever) or get people to watch their TV show/movie/sporting event. Unless Taiwan is selling Chiang Kai-Shek's body, this is not a promotional photo - this website is just an art gallery at a museum. It would be legitimate to use this image in an article about the painting itself or the museum itself, but you can't just take somebody else's artwork and use it to illustrate the subject of the artwork. I should point out, though, that there is at least a decent chance that it is public domain. See {{PD-China}}. If the artist died more than 50 years ago, then the painting is public domain and you can use it as a free image. There is insufficient information here to determine whether that is the case, though. BigDT 16:07, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

• {{promophoto}}is not correct for the pic; as well as {{PD-China}};for the source-site is NOT under the jurisdiction of PRC, I do think the tag {{Politicalposter}} is suitable for this pic which is probably not in the public domain. Ths point here is: the usage of the pic in the articles is in FAIR USE,whatever the tag you add to it. ps: http://www.cksmh.gov.tw is the offical site of a public institution in the Republic of China, not "an art gallery at a museum".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiang_Kai-shek_Memorial_Hall --VVVing 16:53, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

• "Fair use" doesn't mean, "there is a nice picture on the internet that I want to use, therefore it is fair use". You cannot use somebody's painting, photograph, drawing, needlepoint, sculpture, or ANYTHING ELSE, to illustrate the SUBJECT of the piece of art. You can use it to comment on the PIECE OF ART ITSELF or on the person who created it. BigDT 18:33, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
• The servers of wiki locate in USA ; according to the Copyright Act cited above, the usage of the picture in wiki as political poster is well "Fair use". BigDT undersands neither the nature of the source of the pic nor the necessity to use it in wiki articles.--VVVing 17:15, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
• From another point of view: The painting was not created during the Northern Expedition, nor was it created shortly after the Northern Expedition. It was created after Chiang Kai-shek receided to Taiwan, some 30, 40 years or even more later. And it was created for personal or political propaganda. To use such a painting in the manner which is used in the articles is comparable to indifferently citing a political propaganda created 30 or 40 years later as if it was a contemporary historical discription. This gravely violates academic sincerety and wikipedia NPOV principle.--Philopp 07:51, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Girrrrrl.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by AwesomeHat (notify | contribs). OR, UE, used for vandalism MECU≈talk 15:27, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

• Confusing image name, because the name looks like girl Tonytypoon 17:59, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:PublicTransport CrazyFrog.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by M.C. Brown Shoes (notify | contribs). Obselete by Image:CrazyFroggfdl.jpg Original picture had Crazy Frog along with two kids. I cropped them out (which I am allowed to do as it was a GFDL pic) to make the pic just of Crazy Frog because A.) the kids aren't relevant to article at all and B.) Crazy Frog took up a small portion of the photo and thus wasn't visible as much. After I did this, the original user (who is one of the kids in the photo) reverted it with no reason why. I reverted it again, asking how they are in any way important. Another person reverted it today, again with no reason for the revertion. It seems to me the original user just wants his picture in the article. — CyberGhostface 15:44, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Zeg-nee-kaartje.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Brugopolis (notify | contribs). OR, likely non-free BigDT 19:11, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Aaa.JPG (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Filibustería (notify | contribs). OR, two distinctly different images here, neither of which is encyclopedic BigDT 19:12, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:TSJ.JPG (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Mikercool1 (notify | contribs). OR, UE BigDT 19:12, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:BGc.JPG (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Mikercool1 (notify | contribs). OR, UE BigDT 19:35, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:TSJPIC.JPG (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Mikercool1 (notify | contribs). OR, UE BigDT 19:35, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:BgS.JPG (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Mikercool1 (notify | contribs). OR, UE BigDT 19:35, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Three Slim Jims SuFi.JPG (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Mikercool1 (notify | contribs). OR, UE BigDT 19:36, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:TSJHYD.JPG (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Mikercool1 (notify | contribs). OR, UE BigDT 19:37, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:21032706a892854908b838340192l.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Sam jo (notify | contribs). OR, insufficient context to determine encyclopedic use BigDT 19:42, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:1533992411 m.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Lilim-testype (notify | contribs). OR, UE BigDT 19:42, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Dahm Triplets.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Sart91 (notify | contribs). OR, AB, likely copyvio MECU≈talk 22:32, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Damon skeptical4.png (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Googie_man (notify | contribs). OR, LQ MECU≈talk 22:42, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Dania Aguirre 2004.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Filmtalent (notify | contribs). OR, AB MECU≈talk 22:44, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Dandelionart.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Beta.s2ph (notify | contribs). OR, UE MECU≈talk 22:48, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Dan banff2.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by MathGuy (notify | contribs). OR,AB, LQ, self user pic but user is "AWOL" MECU≈talk 22:51, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Damon hit2.png (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Googie_man (notify | contribs). OR, UE, LQ, no source MECU≈talk 22:54, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Dannehl mcveigh.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by HarveyD (notify | contribs). OR, UE, WP:NOT a FFH MECU≈talk 22:57, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Dario Boente.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Darioboente (notify | contribs). OR, AB MECU≈talk 23:11, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Darkred III.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Darkred (notify | contribs). OR, AB, UE? MECU≈talk 23:12, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Darryl.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Jdarryls1 (notify | contribs). OR, UE, AB (1 month), few edits MECU≈talk 23:19, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Darryl white.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by The_Brain_of_Morbius (notify | contribs). "used with permission" but likely not meant to be released in GDFL, no statement by member this is what they meant and received permission for MECU≈talk 23:20, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:DaveWinfield1992WorldSeriesInterview.JPG (talk | delete)

Uploaded by TMC1982 (notify | contribs). OR, likely imagevio, no source MECU≈talk 23:23, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:David Grant jpeg.JPG (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Panda12345 (notify | contribs). OR, few contribs by user, probably inserted into article and removed MECU≈talk 23:35, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:David Estrada 3.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Devilx264@yahoo.com (notify | contribs). AB, likely imagevio MECU≈talk 23:38, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Dawsonownedbysmokebomb.gif (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Blufire.uk (notify | contribs). OR, UE, website watermark, maybe WP:NOT a FFH MECU≈talk 23:45, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete- Display of improper use of fireworks. The image name is confusing since "owned" is only an slang word. Tonytypoon 18:05, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Death Of Innocence 02.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Inthemindofanartist (notify | contribs). OR, UE, AB, only contribs by user are 5 images (1 redundant) MECU≈talk 23:55, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Death Of Innocence 01.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Inthemindofanartist (notify | contribs). OR, UE, AB, only remaining contribs by user are 5 images (1 redundant), used in article prod->AFD'ed (the above one as well) MECU≈talk 23:57, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

• The image name contradicts with the description. The video clip cannot be watched on Google at the given link.Tonytypoon 17:54, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:A Death of Innocence 04.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Inthemindofanartist (notify | contribs). OR, UE, AB, only remaining contribs by user are 5 images (1 redundant), used in article prod->AFD'ed MECU≈talk 23:58, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:A Death of Innocence 03.jpg (talk | delete)

Uploaded by Inthemindofanartist (notify | contribs). OR, UE, AB, only remaining contribs by user are 5 images (1 redundant), used in article prod->AFD'ed MECU≈talk 00:00, 24 December 2006 (UTC)