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Pelé

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Result: Delist Geometry guy 19:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm nominating this for reassessment as I feel it doesn't meet 1(b) or 2(b). There are numerous unsourced statements throughout the article in Early Life, Honours, Some Historical Details, and After football. Additionally, the Some historical details section needs copyediting. 116135 (talk) 00:51, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delist. The article has serious issues with a lack of citations. The prose is in woeful shape - here's an excerpt:

Given the global economic conditions and the football regulations at the time (especially in Brazil) the only players who left the Brazilian leagues for the European ones were usually those who could not get a regular place in one of the top teams or who were at the end of their careers. Sometimes a great player who were eclipsed by more talented footballer in his position, in an era when substitutions during the matches weren’t not allowed did this change as Mazzola for example, after lose his position in Brazilian National team to Pele went to Italy and became an idol there playing the 1962 World Cup for Squadra Azzurra (in those times a player who had done a World Cup for one country wasn't forbidden to play another cup for another country), same as Filó already had done in 1930s. Back to Pele's era, Julinho was another Brazilian who, without opportunity in Brazil, made success in Italy.

Sorry, this article will need much work before it meets GA standards. Majoreditor (talk) 03:09, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delist, needs a lot of work on citation (plenty of {{fact}}s) and prose. It seems a non-native speaker wrote this...that's fine, but it'll need some copyediting before going for GA again. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 10:39, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This is an article which attracts a lot of drive-by edits, and it seems it has suffered over time as a result. I'll see what I can do when I get the opportunity. Whether that will be enough, I don't know. Oldelpaso (talk) 18:58, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Having looked at the article more closely, getting it up to scratch will be a huge task. While I'd like to do so at some point, it will take far longer than the time this process takes. Delist. Oldelpaso (talk) 19:08, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delist. Reluctantly, because there's obviously a lot of work gone into this, but there's quite a bit more required. Citations and prose are the two obvious problems as has been said above. There are quite a few weasel words and peacock terms in there as well as the general prose cleanup that's needed. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 17:38, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delist. Per above: a random sentence from the "Some historical details" section is "Due to the sheer size of Brazil and the problems and costs related to air travel at the time, until 1959 there was nothing that could be called a National Football Tournament between the best teams from across the whole of Brazil." This sentence needs a major overhaul: "Due to the country's size and the cost of air travel, Brazil did not have a national tournament between its best teams until 1959." conveys almost the same information in half as many words. It still begins with an ugly subclause, so I'm sure other editors can do better. Good luck fixing problems like these and many others. This GAR is probably closable. Geometry guy 21:43, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]