Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Louie Caporusso/1
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- Result: Kept. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:21, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
This article was reviewed as a GA in 2009 (by me). While it did pass GA standards in 2009, at the time he was still a college hockey player, and in the meantime he has had essentially his entire professional career. As a result the article has atrophied, with 2013 to present in particular lacking in depth. Wizardman 21:16, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- The article has not really attrophied. Nothing encyclopedic has been written about him as the feature since 2013. Pull him up on Newspaper.com and click on the 2020-24 articles and you will see what I mean. Proquest had 143 articles on him in 2013. No year since has had 10% of that number and the stories usually just mention something like he scored a goal.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:33, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Why are you using newspapers.com and ProQuest, two sites focusing primarily on the United States, to search for coverage of a player who has spent most of the past decade in Europe TonyTheTiger? Also pinging Wizardman, who may not have seen the above. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:49, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- I am only fluent in English. I don't speak the languages of any of the foreign countries he has played in.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:15, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- That means that the article may not be broad enough. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 09:25, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
- This one I did see, but I guess we're at am impasse because I can't say I agree. Wizardman 22:40, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Are you familiar with missing content?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:05, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Do any of the other language versions of his article give us reason to believe via cited content that content is missing on EN WP?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:26, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
- You clearly did not bother to have a look yourself; a quick glance shows [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], and [6]. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- That is correct. I do not visit foreign language WPs to read articles in languages that I do not speak. Never have for any subject on WP. I consider myself to be a fairly hard working editor. However, I don't research in foreign languages. That is a bar no other reviewer has ever asked me to clear. If you isolate pages like these, I can try to make sense of them with google translate, but as you are surely aware a lot gets lost in translation. I would welcome any German-English fluent editorial assistance. As you may have noticed at Thom Darden, I am not averse to reopening the research on a subject. I just don't research in foreign languages. The only foreign language that I might have a chance with is Spanish, but I don't even trust myself to be able to adaquately summarize a Spanish article in English. If you want me to try to expand from Google translate, I can do that. I will need a few days. Give me 4 or 5 days.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:51, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- I have used Google Translate to help with several GAs and FAs. These days, the machine translation is astute enough that if you're reasonably astute, you can realise the minor inaccuracies yourself. In the case of this article, I am slightly staggered that you think looking up sources about a player who has spent the majority of his professional career playing for non-American teams "a bar to clear"—that is basic stuff. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:40, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Not really "basic stuff". Been through dozens of GA biography reviews of athletes who have played overseas and never been asked to track down foreign language sources beyond contract signings and releases. Non of my four bio FAs have had relevant international experience. This will be an adventure.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 11:22, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- I have tagged uncited material and note that there are lots of MOS:NUM issues. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:28, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'll have a look at these issues soon.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:44, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Regarding the citation needed tag, I was surprised to find The Blade coverage of the Cincinnati Cyclones for 2021-22 and 2022-23, but not 2020-21 in Newsbank. I.e. no coverage between April 2017 and November 2021 on Newsbank. ProQuest has no Caporusso articles from 2020 or 2021. Newspaper.com does not seem to have any 2020 or 2021 coverage of the guy.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:27, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'll have a look at these issues soon.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:44, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- I have tagged uncited material and note that there are lots of MOS:NUM issues. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:28, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Not really "basic stuff". Been through dozens of GA biography reviews of athletes who have played overseas and never been asked to track down foreign language sources beyond contract signings and releases. Non of my four bio FAs have had relevant international experience. This will be an adventure.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 11:22, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- I have used Google Translate to help with several GAs and FAs. These days, the machine translation is astute enough that if you're reasonably astute, you can realise the minor inaccuracies yourself. In the case of this article, I am slightly staggered that you think looking up sources about a player who has spent the majority of his professional career playing for non-American teams "a bar to clear"—that is basic stuff. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:40, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- That is correct. I do not visit foreign language WPs to read articles in languages that I do not speak. Never have for any subject on WP. I consider myself to be a fairly hard working editor. However, I don't research in foreign languages. That is a bar no other reviewer has ever asked me to clear. If you isolate pages like these, I can try to make sense of them with google translate, but as you are surely aware a lot gets lost in translation. I would welcome any German-English fluent editorial assistance. As you may have noticed at Thom Darden, I am not averse to reopening the research on a subject. I just don't research in foreign languages. The only foreign language that I might have a chance with is Spanish, but I don't even trust myself to be able to adaquately summarize a Spanish article in English. If you want me to try to expand from Google translate, I can do that. I will need a few days. Give me 4 or 5 days.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:51, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- You clearly did not bother to have a look yourself; a quick glance shows [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], and [6]. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- I am only fluent in English. I don't speak the languages of any of the foreign countries he has played in.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:15, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Why are you using newspapers.com and ProQuest, two sites focusing primarily on the United States, to search for coverage of a player who has spent most of the past decade in Europe TonyTheTiger? Also pinging Wizardman, who may not have seen the above. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:49, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Regarding MOS:NUM, it is quite a challenge for me. Single digit numbers are written as numbers for sports scores and stats. Then, since so many are written as numbers, I wrote others as numbers. Not really sure.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:15, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
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