Wikipedia:Featured and good topic candidates/Failed log/January 2011

Breakout

Breakout

5 articles

"Breakout"

"7 Things"

"Fly on the Wall"

"See You Again"

I believe that Breakout meets all the criteria for being a Good Topic in Wikipedia. In fact, all five articles about the topic are of Good Article status. I have personally worked on all these articles and think that there should be no problem in listing this as a Good Topic. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 01:14, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Why does the count say 6 articles, I only count five. And can we use another picture than a silhouette? Courcelles 07:59, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
~~Support~~ normally I would prefer to have Girls Just Want to Have Fun included also, but it has been covered by so many artists that Cyrus' cover isn't really notable. Nergaal (talk) 08:02, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose The tour needs to be included also. Nergaal (talk) 21:39, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support Novice7 | Talk 13:51, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support Z gin der 2010-12-17T19:15Z (UTC)

Wonder World Tour is not required as it is not part of the album and the tour also promoted other albums. Z gin der 2010-12-20T15:10Z (UTC)

Oppose, The Wonder World Tour definitely needs to be included. Xwomanizerx (talk) 07:16, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Girls Just Want to Have Fun needs to be included too. Xwomanizerx (talk) 19:25, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose As Xwomanizer pointed out, Wonder World Tour is essential. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 08:26, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The tour needs inclusion. Adabow (talk · contribs) 20:25, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The tour wasn't solely formed to promote Breakout and it launched over a year later. It doesn't seem worthy of inclusion. "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" isn't an original and Cyrus' cover isn't too notable. If the article was revamped, only one or at most two sentences would be devoted to Cyrus version... if it isn't listed. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 03:45, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry boss, Breakout was one of the albums being promoted by the tour. Not to mention the fact that TTOOL and BO were her tow current albums charting simultaneously, while the tour was going on. Hence it is indeed essential as part of the GT. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 17:12, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support, I don't think it's absolutely necessary to include the tour.

The tour article looks like it could get to GA status without too much work; why not clean it, nom it and then put it in here? Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 18:02, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would have to disagree. The tour article is far from GA status, at least that's my personal opinion. I can revamp it, but it would take a while. If anything, I'll nominate it later. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 22:02, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The tour article I will do later... but "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun"? Does anyone think it's needed because I can strongly say that it isn't. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 22:04, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'd agree that the Girls.. cover is not needed. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 03:10, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As for the tour, I'll give you until month's end to nominate it, else this will fail, though it can be re-nommed when the tour passes. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 17:25, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Close with no consensus to promote. When the tour is ready it can be re-nommed. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 04:24, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

K Foundation

3 articles

K Foundation art award

K Foundation Burn a Million Quid

Contributor(s): Kingboyk

It seems that this topic was abandoned a while ago so I am nominating it. --Nergaal (talk) 19:13, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - Jimmy Cauty and Bill Drummond would need to be included to make the topic complete IMO -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:55, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - I have to agree with Chris. It doesn't seem complete with the founders of the foundation. GamerPro64 (talk) 00:59, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Closed with no consensus to promote. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 05:14, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Greatest Hits: My Prerogative

Greatest Hits: My Prerogative

4 articles

File:Brits star in hollywood walk of fame.JPG

"My Prerogative"

Greatest Hits: My Prerogative (video)

"Do Somethin'"

"I've Just Begun (Having My Fun)"

I am nominating this for a good topic because I think it meets the criteria. The four articles are GA. Xwomanizerx (talk) 06:34, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support - I see no major issues. So, it's a support from me Novice7 ^(Talk) 07:33, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This is an album and like all albums every song on the album that has a Wikipedia article on them need to included in the topic. I do not believe that since this is a greatest hits album, only the new singles need to be included. Zginder 2010-11-10T23:02Z (UTC)
- Celebration (Madonna album) is a good topic, and as this one, includes the album, its two singles and a video collection. Xwomanizerx (talk) 02:21, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - What do you know, there is precedence. I still think it is the wrong decision. It is called a greatest hits album, so in order to fully discuss the topic, the greatest hits should be discussed. Zginder 2010-11-11T03:25Z (UTC)
    - I nominated that topic for removal. Nergaal (talk) 21:57, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support Absolutely no reason not to promote.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 04:48, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose For an album, any song that has an article needs to be included. Courcelles 20:06, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
~~Oppose~~ I've Just Begun (Having My Fun) is missed. All songs on it not need to be included because this is a compilation, but all the new songs released or included must be added. Tbhotch^Talk ^C. 22:49, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Yet "It's So Cool" was a new song in Celebration, does not have an article and you supported the nomination. Xwomanizerx (talk) 00:26, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe because it has no article? Tbhotch^Talk ^C. 02:06, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And what's your point? Both fail WP:NSONG, there shouldn't be an article for "I've Just Begun (Having My Fun)" at all. Xwomanizerx (talk) 02:31, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My point is that in a compilation album all new songs, if have articles, must be included on the FTC, older songs are not included. That's the point. Tbhotch^Talk ^C. 04:16, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - perhaps you could remove Greatest Hits: My Prerogative (video) and rename the topic "Singles from Greatest Hits: My Prerogative", then I believe it could be a topic, otherwise it fails criteria 1d. CrowzRSA 00:51, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
~~Oppose~~ - if one of the new songs from this album, I've Just Begun (Having My Fun), has an article then it needs to be in here. Saying that it doesn't meet the notability guidelines is no excuse- the article still exists. Get it deleted/merged or get it added. --Pres N 02:48, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support - now that it is a GA, my concerns are addressed. --Pres N 01:47, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- AfD on that article was closed as "non consensus" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:09, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: When the merge discussion is finalized, note it here, and we'll proceed with the GT accordingly. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 02:41, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The merge discussion reached no consensus again, so after nominating "I've Just Begun (Having My Fun)" it's now GA. Xwomanizerx (talk) 05:52, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support - of course, it could be expanded to include all the old songs, but new songs is sufficient to pass 1d. Adabow (talk · contribs) 22:33, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I would like to see a change in precedent, especially as we only have one greatest hits topic already. It doesn't really make sense to omit the hits. Adabow (talk · contribs) 22:02, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose the topic needs to include all 19 songs as each of them have articles. A topic called "Greatest hits" should contain actually all the hits. Nergaal (talk) 21:53, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Nergaal --Admrboltz (talk) 22:06, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This should not be considered a complete topic unless all of the songs on the album that are notable enough to have articles are at least GA status, not just the new songs on the album. A person reading this topic would want to learn about all of the songs on the album, not just the new ones. –Grondemar 07:09, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Close with no consensus to promote. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 03:43, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]