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It is a very good quality that is expected by the United States Nevy Band. It is used in the National anthem of Yemen article and is in the infobox.
- Nominate and support. Spongie555 (talk) 04:15, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry to oppose your first nomination, but the music is just so sub-ordinary I don't think any performance of it should be featured. Plus it represents a murderous regime currently under challenge in the streets (not that that counts, but ...). The rall. at the end is misjudged, but the performance is up to the usual high standard apart from that. The musicians must have been embarrassed to perform it. Tony (talk) 12:44, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
- Even though this my first nomination and I'm not familiar with the procedures I think the music should be judge neutrally and not by your personal opion of the current Yemeni government and protests. Spongie555 (talk) 17:23, 27 March 2011 (UTC).
- I really don't think that sort of argument is appropriate for something like a national anthem, which has inherent notability. Plus, I thought we agreed that not liking a notable piece was not grounds to oppose? Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:09, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
- What sort of argument? Musical quality does not equal notability. In this case, it is utterly unsuitable to the genre. Tony (talk) 11:04, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
- Never mind. I read "The musicians must have been embarassed to perform it" to refer to the anthem, not the ralletando, and, further, you didn't clarify "this brass band arrangement of Yemen's anthem" when you said "the music is just so sub-ordinary". Please try to be a bit more specific. Adam Cuerden (talk) 13:59, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
- What sort of argument? Musical quality does not equal notability. In this case, it is utterly unsuitable to the genre. Tony (talk) 11:04, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose - I don't think that this piece is at all suitable for Western instruments, especially for a Western military band. It breaks all the rules of melody construction in Western classical music ... the first phrase of a piece shouldn't start with a 5-7 chord, for a start. (The first two chords establish the home key, but do not count as part of the first phrase in my opinion). It would probably sound more at home on traditional Arab instruments. Graham87 08:57, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose My apologies, given it is your first nomination, my concerns are largely the same as Graham's, the music sounds rather odd when played on Western instruments, the piece probably wouldn't be bad were it the opposite, I wonder if there is a recording of the anthem played on traditional instruments circulating somewhere on the net... —Ancient Apparition • Champagne? • 10:24pm • 11:24, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
- Is this even played on traditional instruments? I remember sitting through a video we were forced to watch in class at uni that was a speech by an African leader right after they gained independance. This guy rambles on about how they are free from British domination forever. The ironic thing is that they play the "new" national anthem at the end of this and it is almost an exact replica of a European marching song. Sometimes native and local things are forgotten about. --In actu (talk) 19:03, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose Sorry Tony, but your argument make absolutely no sense. I believe March of the Volunteers is Featured? But Graham makes a good argument here. I was going to stay out of it for a while but I agree that Western instruments don't really work well with this kind of music. --haha169 (talk) 01:20, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
- Although this is played well, I think the arrangement misses the tune and does it a disservice (see this youtube clip for a version which seems to make sense). It is a notable piece of music because it is a national anthem, and if this was how the piece should sound I would be more in favour of supporting it. The micro-tones in the original tune don't get played well by the band (although to echo In Actu the accompaniment part appears to be what was written even though it sounds like a half-understood imitation of a European March) so I must oppose. Sorry Spongie - better luck next time! Major Bloodnok (talk) 12:45, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
- Not promoted —Ancient Apparition • Champagne? • 2:06pm • 03:06, 2 April 2011 (UTC)