Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/September 2008

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Maple Leaf Rag

Wonderful recording of a US classic

• Nominate and support. Xavexgoem (talk) 15:09, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
• Major problem, when and by whom was it recorded. The recording artist receives a copyright on the recording regardless of the status of the composition. Zginder 2008-08-21T18:41Z (UTC)
  • I realise the information page is a bit unclear - Commons:Uploader ruined format and made things rather more unclear, but it's a user-made recording by Apatterno, (see User_talk:Apatterno#Maple Leaf Rag). I'll notify him of this, and fix the page. =) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 22:07, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

I have edited the recording's Commons page to clarify its copyright status. PD only referred to Joplin's original composition; I am the creator of the recording and license it according to CC-BY-SA-2.5. A Pattern O (talk) 17:15, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 19:50, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Legal issues solved. Zginder 2008-08-23T04:52Z (UTC)

• Support. Maybe FSC will lead to a ragtime revival. Wonderful fun public domain compositions. Durova^Charge! 19:52, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
• Criterion 5 oppose Criterion 5 (ii) is not met. Zginder 2008-08-23T04:52Z (UTC)
  • Certainly the provider has these details? Would be nice to get them :-) Xavexgoem (talk) 07:19, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
    • I'd probably say that for a self-recorded work, it's not necessary - and possibly an invasion of privacy - to ask for venue, unless it's at a concert hall. For piano music, this is probably not the case. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 21:34, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
      • Support– The criteria is on your side, but I would like to see the score linked from the page. Zginder 2008-08-24T03:21Z (UTC)
        • I'll do one better: I've found a digital scan of a first edition printing of the score, and am restoring it for hosting at Wikibooks. :) Durova^Charge! 04:55, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support a little funny and cute but as the same time fine, very special at least what I think. --Kanonkas :  Talk  18:05, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support. Very nice rendition and recording of the piece. Excellent example of the genre and era. Vassyana (talk) 18:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Promoted Maple_Leaf_RagQ.ogg --Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 06:25, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Ten Biblical Songs

I think this is an excellent composition, an atmospheric, moody number from Antonín Dvořák at his peak. While not his most famous work, I'm suspicious about the copyright state of those New World Symphony files we have. Plus, there's just something nice about finding something that Wikipedia doesn't have, and using it to illustrrate points and articles that previously had nothing.

Anyway, I think the work stands on its own merits - Dvorak is, after all, a genius - so I don't feel the need to defend this too much. Enjoy!

Used in: Psalms, Bible of Kralice, Antonín Dvořák, Song cycle

• Support as co-nominator. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 22:01, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support as co-nominator. Bastique ^demandez 21:59, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support another important composer. Durova^Charge! 23:50, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support very relaxing & good quality on the sound. --Kanonkas :  Talk  10:52, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support- I see no reason not to support. Zginder 2008-09-02T13:49Z (UTC)

Promoted Ten Biblical Songs by Antonin Dvorak.ogg --MZMcBride (talk) 06:26, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Bagpipes

For instruments, there really is nothing like hearing them. A short recording of a pipe band tells the reader far more about what bagpipes sound like than a thousand words of text.

I'll be honest, though - while the piping is competent, I do wish the opening pause was a bit longer before it went into the tune, and that the ending was not so abrupt (a function of this leading into a piano and voice performance of "Scots Wha Hae" in the original). If someone can find a better recording of bagpipes, I will happily withdraw the nomination.

Used in bagpipe, pipe band, Skye Boat Song, etc.

• Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 23:53, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose the bagpipe is not a musical instrument but an instrument of torture. Durova^Charge! 05:40, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support, if only to offset Durova's oppose. Xavexgoem (talk) 19:53, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support, unless Durova can come up with something else. Zginder 2008-08-28T14:37Z (UTC)
• Support: It seems the Scottish like the sound of a cat being strangled - this perfectly portrays that. Dendodge|Talk^Contribs 15:54, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support, the bonniest sound that e'er I heard . . . --Kleinzach 06:16, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Promoted Skye Boat Song.ogg --MZMcBride (talk) 08:01, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Beethoven Piano Sonata No. 28

This is a bit of a cross-project collaboration: User:Durova found Beethoven's sketch of this piece, and I pointed out that I could probably find the music. Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Beethoven Piano Sonata No. 28 manuscript sketch shows Beethoven's original sketch for the fourth movement

These files are used in Piano sonata, Sonata, Piano Sonata No. 28 (Beethoven) (obviously), and Ludwig van Beethoven, among others.

• Co-nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 19:34, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
• Conominate and support (death to superfluous hypens). Durova^Charge! 19:42, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

• Support. A nice piece of music, and a quality performance. Bonus points for potential connection to other featured content. -Pete (talk) 21:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support Good quality and music so yep, a support from me. --Kanonkas :  Talk  18:03, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support. Obviously solid material. Vassyana (talk) 18:05, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
• Support. I am not a music expert, but I can not find problems. Zginder 2008-09-03T19:33Z (UTC)

Promoted Beethoven - Piano Sonata No. 28 in A Major, Op. 101 - I. Etwas lebhaft, und mit der innigsten Empfindung.ogg, Beethoven - Piano Sonata No. 28 in A Major, Op. 101 - II. Lebhaft. Marschmäßig.ogg, and Beethoven - Piano Sonata No. 28 in A Major, Op. 101 - III. Langsam und sehnsuchtsvoll and IV. Geschwind, doch nicht zu sehr und mit Entschlossenheit.ogg --MZMcBride (talk) 08:00, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm Just Wild About Harry

Recorded while the musical was in its original Broadway run, barely within the pre-1923 limit for US public domain, in a good quality sound file for the period. Later used as a presidential campaign song for Harry Truman. Appears at Eubie Blake, Shuffle Along, U.S. President Slogans, United States presidential election, 1948, and I'm Just Wild About Harry.

• Conominate and support. Durova^Charge! 08:33, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
• Conominate and support. Vassyana (talk) 08:39, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support - Lovrly stuff. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 09:23, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support nice catch, very amusing & good quality. --Kanonkas :  Talk  14:48, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Promoted Eubie Blake - Just Wild about Harry.ogg' --Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 05:37, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

The Right of the People to Rule

Excerpts of a speech given by Theodore Roosevelt at Carnegie Hall, March 12, 1912. Probably shortened due to time constraints of wax cylinder medium Recorded August 12 by Thomas Edison. Appears at Theodore Roosevelt.

• Conominate and support. Durova^Charge! 09:29, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
• Conominate and support. Vassyana (talk) 09:30, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support Zginder 2008-08-27T14:48Z (UTC)
• Support --Kleinzach 03:35, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
• Support - Eusebeus (talk) 02:28, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Promoted Right of the People.ogg --Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 00:48, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Gounod - Petite Symphony

Charles Gounod's Petite Symphonie pour neuf instruments à vent
(Little Symphony for Nine Woodwinds)

This is a fantastic work. A beautiful chamber piece, the instrumentation is a nonet consisting of one flute, two clarinets, two oboes, two bassoons and two horns. Closely resembling double instrumentation of a woodwind quintet, the piece prominently features a flute solo (reducing the need for a second flute in a double-quintet).

• Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 03:38, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support good quality and classic music by Charles Gounod. --Kanonkas :  Talk  11:24, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Durova^Charge! 22:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support. Excellent rendition, solid quality recording. Meets the criteria. Vassyana (talk) 18:09, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Promoted Charles Gounod - Petite Symphony, Opus 216, Movement I.ogg; Charles Gounod - Petite Symphony, Opus 216, Movement II.ogg; Charles Gounod - Petite Symphony, Opus 216, Movement III.ogg; and Charles Gounod - Petite Symphony, Opus 216, Movement IV.ogg --MZMcBride (talk) 08:08, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Singing sand

How else would people know what singing sand sounds like? A fine addition to the Singing sand article. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 02:45, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

• Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 02:45, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support --Kleinzach 03:33, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
• Support I guess this is ok. Zginder 2008-09-01T14:07Z (UTC)
• Support. The sound comes across very clearly and is quite different from how I expected singing sand to sound. It is a very useful illustration for the subject. Vassyana (talk) 07:30, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Promoted KotogahamaWorking.ogg --MZMcBride (talk) 08:09, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

suikinkutsu recording

This is a recording of a suikinkutsu that was recorded on December 27, 2005 at a tea house in Daisen Park by Komura Jutaro. It is a clear and beautiful illustration of what the device sounds like.

• Nominate and support. --Torsodog^Talk 03:57, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
• Support send in the plumber. Durova^Charge! 04:28, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
• Opinion It would be much better if the ah-aha-ah noise that seems to be made by some kid in the middle of the sound playing is not recorded together. Could it be reduce a bit by editing?--Caspian blue (talk) 23:45, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Like Shoemaker, I was also under the impression that the sound was that of a bird. Being an outside ornament, coupled with the fact that the bird's call isn't all that loud or distracting, I don't think this takes away from the clip's overall sound. --Torsodog^Talk 14:38, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

With all due respect, I disagree. The first half of the recording was good, but the noise distracts me very much. I have heard of suikinkutsu sound, so well, I'd say if the noise is cut off or minimized, I would support the sound for FS, but no at this status. Many featured images are edited by photoshop or other programs, and why don't we try to edit sound like images?--Caspian blue (talk) 14:45, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

What would your propose that I do? Simply cut out the section in question all together, or attempt to minimize the crow's call? --Torsodog^Talk 15:23, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

I have edited the sound and changed the nomination accordingly. --Torsodog^Talk 21:16, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh, good job on it. Then I change my opinion to support.--Caspian blue (talk) 21:35, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

• Support I think that's some kind of crow. And, well, these things are outside. I'd probably say it was less encyclopedic without the background noises of a Japanese garden. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 14:09, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
• Support. Soothing, lovely and most importantly (for the purposes of FSC) an excellent audio illustration of the topic (crow included). Vassyana (talk) 07:34, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Promoted Suikinkutsu recording.ogg --MZMcBride (talk) 08:10, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Por una cabeza

Per Kleinzach's request, let's have some classic Argentine tangos by Carlos Gardel. There's actually a couple more I'm eyeing, but I just don't feel like uploading, documenting the copyright status, and doing all the setup today, so let's start with this one.

As people will ask about copyright status, Suffice it to say it checks out, but it's all very complicated. It boils down to yes, it was all out of copyright in Argentina in 1996, there were extensions in 1997, but now it's out of copyright again. See [1] if you want to check my work.

It is used in Music of Argentina, Por una cabeza (big surprise), Carlos Gardel, and Alfredo Le Pera.

• Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 13:30, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
• Support. Excellent example. (Maybe one song per subject is enough - given that there are so many singers (of all types) that could be documented?). --Kleinzach 22:52, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
  • I think it's useful to have a few to illustrate the range of the singer or medium. Certainly, featured sounds is not yet overloaded with tangos (n=0). Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 05:19, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
    • You have hundreds, no, thousands, of singers of circa 1900 to 1935 who are unrepresented. Why not work through a checklist? --Kleinzach 06:42, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
      • Copyright law, mainly: Carlos Gardel died tragically young, which helps make the copyright status a bit more unambiguous. For non-Americans (and, for systemic bias reasons, I'm trying to avoid too much America from myself) it's necessary to research copyright law for every country as it comes up. If you care to suggest a few that died before, say, 1938, I'll gladly use your list, though. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 07:10, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
        • OK. I'll put a list on your talk page. It will be international - mainly European. Is that OK? --Kleinzach 09:27, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
          • Sure! Though I'll probably still nominate the one other Carlos Gardel song, as I did the research anyway. But I'll save it for later. =) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 10:19, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
• Support. A very excellent example. Quite nice. Vassyana (talk) 07:33, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Promoted Carlos Gardel - Por Una Cabeza.ogg --MZMcBride (talk) 08:11, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Save A Little Dram For Me

Humorous song criticizing prohibition. Lyrics available at sound file. Appears at Roaring Twenties and Prohibition in the United States.

• Coominate and support. Durova^Charge! 23:48, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
• Conom and support. Vassyana (talk) 16:54, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
• Comment There's a minor flaw from Om:15s to just before 1m:00s: tinny metallic static from an imperfect hiss removal. It's very faint, but can it be removed, like in the rest of the song? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 17:43, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

• Unfortunately, it cannot (at least within my abilities). The original recording was in rough shape and attempts to reduce the artifact in one fashion or another resulted in worsened audio quality. Vassyana (talk) 17:52, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

That's fair enough. Support then. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 18:47, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Promoted Save a Little Dram for Me.ogg --MZMcBride (talk) 08:11, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Mendelssohn's Symphony No. 3

Performance:

• Conductor: Simon Schindler
• Ensemble: Fulda Symphonic Orchestra
• Location: Grosser Saal der Orangerie Fulda
• Date: 2004-03-09

Work:

• Composer: Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdy
• Opus number: 56

A good quality, notable recording of a great work by an amazing composer. Definitely feature-worthy in my eyes. All 4 files are used in Symphony No. 3 (Mendelssohn).

• Nominate and support. ¡ Dendodge|Talk^Contribs ! 20:29, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support a long review well worth the patience. Durova^Charge! 23:27, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose Amateur band and a lot of background noise considering it's a modern recording. --Kleinzach 09:04, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose - An amateur ensemble that puts in an adequate performance; the background noise is simply too distracting to make this of much value. Eusebeus (talk) 02:33, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose Background noise levels not suitable for a feature sound --Banime (talk) 19:38, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Not promoted Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 23:05, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Don Giovanni

The piece is made and composed by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart and Lorenzo da Ponte in 1787 for use in an opera. This piece is in Opera, Don Giovanni, List of major opera composers and List of compositions by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. As mentioned, it is 6 minutes, 49 seconds long and was recorded in 2000 by the Fulda Symphonic Orchestra. It is a really good file, and deserves a spot as a Featured Sound.

• Nominate and support. Mitch32^(UP) 21:37, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
• Support: Amazing quality historical file - I'm surprised it's not already featured! Dendodge|Talk^Contribs 19:23, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose. It's not a historical file. It was recorded in 2000 by a semi-professional, semi-amateur orchestra, see Fulda Symphonic Orchestra. This version of the overture is a bit slow and doesn't have great clarity. We could do better, though it's an adequate stopgap. It shouldn't be elevated to featured status however. --Kleinzach 00:11, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose per Kleinzach. Eusebeus (talk) 02:16, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose. I reluctantly must agree that while this recording is nice, it falls short of featured sound quality. I would expect a free license modern performance that is of higher professional quality and/or a historically interesting recording for this piece. Vassyana (talk) 07:40, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Not promoted -- Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 04:22, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

How can they tell that I'm Irish?

Fairly typical of a vaudeville-style comic song. These glimpses into the past are one of the things that featured sounds has the potential to do very well.

I've done the restoration myself - the source is linked from the image page; if anyone thinks they can do better, please have a go =)

• Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 16:53, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
• Support --Kleinzach 00:14, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
• Support. What a wonderful slice of history! Nice clear recording and obvious encyclopedic purpose. Vassyana (talk) 07:36, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
• Support Very clear --Banime (talk) 19:17, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
• Up to standard. :) Support. Ncmvocalist (talk) 18:24, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Promoted How Can They Tell That I'm Irish.ogg --MZMcBride (talk) 08:36, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Two Spanish Civil War songs

You know, we don't have any acoustic guitar songs yet, and this recording of two Spanish folk songs is high-quality and free to use. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 05:47, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

• Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 05:47, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
• Support: Very high quality, suitably licensed media that would make an excellent Featured Sound, in my opinion. Dendodge|Talk^Contribs 19:20, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose. Please listen to the real thing on Youtube Los cuatro generales-puente de los franceses. It's not really a folksong, though the tune is apparently traditional. (As one commentator said on Youtube: "Forma parte de nuestra historia, gracias por subir la canción.") The 'artsy' version (above) is not representative of one of the great popular songs of the civil war. Tap your feet - or rather march - to the original!--Kleinzach 23:33, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
  • I'm sorry, I'm not quite sure how a guitar-and-solo version of Los Cuatro Generales is more "artsy" than the multiple instrument version that you link to. Admittedly, several more instruments are added for "Viva La Quince Brigada", but that's not the folk song you linked to. Is there something I'm missing? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 14:53, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
    • Yes. The title above is Two Spanish Civil War songs. The Youtube version (of the first song) is authentic (Civil War period) the other one is not. (There may be different texts as well.) Are you promoting this as a war song or as a folksong? Obviously different criteria apply. --Kleinzach 02:21, 9 September 2008 (UTC) P.S. Of course my comments apply to the second song as well.
• Oppose The file is uncategorized and there is no lyrics given. Zginder 2008-09-08T02:39Z (UTC)
  • Fixed! Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 11:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
    • Neutral until I have a better chance to look at it. Zginder 2008-09-08T14:31Z (UTC)
      • Support I have no idea what the oppose is about and as such I can support. Zginder 2008-09-20T02:49Z (UTC)

• Oppose: Well, I'm spanish and I have known these songs for a long time. I have to say that there're some mistakes both in the lyrycs and the title. First there're two songs that can be confused in title, one is "Ay CARMELA" in which lyrics you can hear "...viva la QUINTA Brigada..." that I suppose it is the song you're playing on the file despite the lyrics have almost nothing to do with the originals except for the melody and rythm. The other song is "Viva la QUINCE brigada" and this song is from the irish artist Christy Moore who composed it in honour of the irish people that fought with the republicans in the 15th International Brigade, but even he dismissed the number as in a first original version he used QUINTA instead of QUINCE due to a translation mistake. And secondly as the title of the second song is "Ay CARMELA" then it is that what should appear on the lyrics and not "Ay MANUELA". So it is not a very accurate image of the Spanish Civil War songs but a good job anyway. For the real songs (the three mentioned), here are the links: : "Viva la Quince Brigada" "Ay Carmela" "Los Cuatro Generales", also known as "Puente de los Franceses"--Achu astaroth (talk) 16:42, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Promoted Los Cuatro Generales and Viva La Quince Brigada.ogg --MZMcBride (talk) 08:38, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Three gospel songs from 1943

A selection of Gospel music collected by the Library of Congress in 1943.

I don't think it's necessary to be too lengthy in my description: This is a gift to us, a selection of good-quality fairly early Gospel music made available to us because of the Library of Congress's ethnographic work, putting it outside of the copyright that would otherwise attach to such recordings.

• Co-nominate and support. Vassyana (talk) 14:20, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
• Co-nominate and support. Dendodge|Talk^Contribs 12:10, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
• Co-nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 15:50, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
• Support. --Kleinzach 23:57, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
• Support a few fine pieces of audio ethnographic history. Durova^Charge! 21:13, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
• Support --Banime (talk) 18:55, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Promoted The Golden Jubilee Quartet - Oh Jonah.ogg; Cochran Field Singers - My Lord Is Writin'.ogg; and Bertha Houston - We are Americans, Praise the Lord.ogg. --MZMcBride (talk) 08:40, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh, what a charming thing's a battle!

Frankly, this mad sergeant is such a wonderful comic creation that I couldn't resist. And, let's face it, it's not like we're overwhelmed with 18th century popular music. Plus, it provides useful illustration to numerous articles, including Charles Dibdin, Isaac Bickerstaffe (the libretto uses the other spelling of his name, which was also one of Johnathan Swift's aliases. Shame on Swift!), Ranelagh Gardens, and The Recruiting Serjeant, which I made for this purpose. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 02:20, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

• Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 02:20, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose (per discussion at the Opera Project. Not only is this badly sung but it's accompanied by a piano. Leaving aside the fact that the piano didn't exist in England in 1770, we really need a version with orchestra. Maybe that's impossible to find but I think we should delete this anyway. Best. --Kleinzach 05:59, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
  • "Delete" seems rather strong, particularly as this song entered the music hall/parlour ballad tradition. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 08:34, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
    • Maybe, but the article is about the 18th century 'burletta' (if that's what we've decided it is) The Recruiting Serjeant, not 19th century parlour ballads. Anyway this is about 'Featured sound candidates' - and I'm opposing. --Kleinzach 03:06, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
• Support. Interesting and notable. Clear recording. As indicated by my support on another candidate, I disagree with "purist" oppose rationales. That said, my support comes with the caveat that this should be clearly labeled as a music hall arrangement and rendition, just as the other candidate is clearly labeled. Vassyana (talk) 18:13, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

I honestly don't know how you'd label it, "By the way, this piece is performed by a singer who comes from the music hall/parlour ballad tradition, and Dibdin's work was used as parlour ballads? The other one has a lot more definite things you can say, you're asking me to label this with a critique of the singer's style, combined with "guess what purpose the piano arrangment was made for." Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 18:58, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

I won't ask that you engage in original research or guesswork to provide a caption. Vassyana (talk) 10:48, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

• Not very nicely sung at all, and not up to standard...oppose. Ncmvocalist (talk) 18:18, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
• Support very much opposed to the restrictive attitude that some display. GerardM (talk) 11:28, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment In order to get an article up to featured standard, a writer may do weeks of work. Shouldn't there be some kind of equivalence with featured sounds? Shouldn't we only promote excellent ones? --Kleinzach 07:17, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
    • You are insisting on "work" that is in my opinion extraneous to what a featured sound is. The notion that weeks of work are needed in order to get to this state is preposterous in my opinion. GerardM (talk) 12:00, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Not promoted. --MZMcBride (talk) 00:30, 27 September 2008 (UTC)