Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/Kyrie eleison
This is a good example of plain chant. The only issue I have with it is the reverberating in the background. It sounds like this was recorded in a Basilica or Cathedral and it may actually add to the recording. After all, plain chant is meant to be heard inside a church.
What appears to be a full mass was recorded. I can expand the nomination out to that if need be.
- Nominate and support. Guerillero | My Talk 03:23, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
- Can you provide the longer version for comparison? It may or may not be valuable to hear how it differs (or doesn't) for different parts of the mass - but we'll need to hear it to judge. Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:04, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
- It appears to be fragments of a vespers. There is a Deus in adjutorium meum intende, Antiphona et Magnificat, Pater Noster, Oratio de Saint Vincent Pallotti, and Ave Maria. All of these sounds could stand on their own technically. *jumps for joy at the sweet sound of plain chant* --Guerillero | My Talk 02:35, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, sure, Support, then. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:02, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- It appears to be fragments of a vespers. There is a Deus in adjutorium meum intende, Antiphona et Magnificat, Pater Noster, Oratio de Saint Vincent Pallotti, and Ave Maria. All of these sounds could stand on their own technically. *jumps for joy at the sweet sound of plain chant* --Guerillero | My Talk 02:35, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- Can you provide the longer version for comparison? It may or may not be valuable to hear how it differs (or doesn't) for different parts of the mass - but we'll need to hear it to judge. Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:04, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
- Support Good clarity and unity. —Ancient Apparition • Champagne? • 5:37pm • 06:37, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
- Sound description page issues. No date of composition is provided. It seems to be saying that Vincent Pallotti composed it (19th century). So this is a chant interpolated into a work from the romantic period? I'm confused. The Pallotti article mentions nothing about music or chant, and does not include the sound file. Tony (talk) 09:14, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
- I can't find any information about this outside of whats on the file page. However, I do think it would be reasonable to believe that St Vincent wrote this. The Kyre was the first prayer when he celebrated mass just like today[1] and recording was made at a monastery of the religious order that he founded. Unless we know of any Pallotine monks/priests this is all we have to work with. --Guerillero | My Talk 19:08, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
- Support This of course reminds me of Kyrie (song), which I now finally know how to spell.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:57, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
- Can someone do something about the date? The question above wasn't answered completely. Sven Manguard Wha? 06:06, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- I suspect these things tend to be passed one person to another. Like the Cantillation example recently, they are very hard to pin down to better than "traditional" unless you get very lucky. It's very similar to the Ambrosian chant recorded here, so I'd suspect it's from the same initial source, with the modifications you'd expect in something likely taught generation to generation of monks, instead of by sheet music. Adam Cuerden (talk) 10:04, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Alright, I won't hold it up any longer then. Either stick it in undatable or round to the nearest century, I guess. Sven Manguard Wha? 15:52, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- I suspect these things tend to be passed one person to another. Like the Cantillation example recently, they are very hard to pin down to better than "traditional" unless you get very lucky. It's very similar to the Ambrosian chant recorded here, so I'd suspect it's from the same initial source, with the modifications you'd expect in something likely taught generation to generation of monks, instead of by sheet music. Adam Cuerden (talk) 10:04, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Support Sounds great, adds to the page its used on, and the unclarity about the date it comes from is appropriate given the nature of the piece. I think it should be trimmed though; while there is echo at the end given where it was recorded, there seems to be far too much silence. Not a deciding factor, however. Major Bloodnok (talk) 07:41, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Promoted Schola Gregoriana-Kyrie eleison.ogg --Sven Manguard Wha? 23:45, 12 April 2011 (UTC)