Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/Gospel Train
"The Gospel Train", was an African-American spiritual, that was first published by the Fisk Jubilee Singers in 1872. African-American spirituals are underrepresented at FS, so this should be welcome. This file adds significantly to the following articles:
- Nominate and support. TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:42, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
- Queries—What does "Fisk Jubilee Singers, MU1 William F. Edwards, III" mean on the SDP, in response to "Author"? Is this an arrangement? A date is given (1872), but it's unclear what it refers to. This is not a traditional African American spiritual, I can assure you of that. I'm concerned that it has been used in the article on Spiritual (music) without explaining this. Tony (talk) 06:05, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
- In all honesty, I could use come help interpreting The Sea Chanters Section here. Not sure what it means. It seems to me that sometimes they have a composer underneath and sometimes they have an arranger or arrangement notes. As far as AA spiritual goes, the fact that this white-looking and -sounding group performed it does not mean it is not a spiritual.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:04, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
- I'm no expert on this style, but I'm pretty sure the traditional spiritual came out of the fields and into the churches with a melody line supported by a pretty plain homophonic (chordal) accompaniment in the lower voices. This arrangement is much more elaborate, so EV is going to involve pointing this out (if it is indeed the case ... I'm in the dark). Someone needs to read the article(s), and I haven't got time with the deadline coming up for The Signpost. Tony (talk) 14:23, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
- The technical details of the spiritual style that you mention are most certainly true. Keep in mind that the Fisk Jubilee Singers first published this and not a group of slaves working the field.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:36, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
- I'm no expert on this style, but I'm pretty sure the traditional spiritual came out of the fields and into the churches with a melody line supported by a pretty plain homophonic (chordal) accompaniment in the lower voices. This arrangement is much more elaborate, so EV is going to involve pointing this out (if it is indeed the case ... I'm in the dark). Someone needs to read the article(s), and I haven't got time with the deadline coming up for The Signpost. Tony (talk) 14:23, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
- In all honesty, I could use come help interpreting The Sea Chanters Section here. Not sure what it means. It seems to me that sometimes they have a composer underneath and sometimes they have an arranger or arrangement notes. As far as AA spiritual goes, the fact that this white-looking and -sounding group performed it does not mean it is not a spiritual.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:04, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose I don't buy this as a 19th-century arrangement, without more proof, nor is it in the standard genre. Adam Cuerden (talk) 09:34, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose per Adam. It sounds great as ever with the Navy Band, but I am conscious of the EV of it; as Tony1 points out it is an elaborate arrangement of the much simpler original. I don't think it passes muster, and nor do I think it should be seen as an example of the genre - it most certainly isn't (cf the soundtrack to "O Brother Where Art Thou?"). Major Bloodnok (talk) 23:32, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Not promoted. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 11:04am • 01:04, 10 May 2011 (UTC)