Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/August 2008

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Eisenhower farewell address

One of the more famous United States presidential speeches from the Cold War. Dwight D. Eisenhower coined the term military-industrial complex for his final address as president of the United States in order to caution about the potential social and political effects of a large peacetime arms industry.

Used in:

• Military-industrial complex
• Cold War (1953–1962)
• Presidency of Dwight D. Eisenhower

Full transcript available at the Eisenhower Presidential Library site.[1]

• Conominate and support. - Durova^Charge! 18:32, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
• Co-nominate and support Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 20:37, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
• Support So long as the duration of the file is included in the caption ;) « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 21:28, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

  Sure. Durova^Charge! 22:35, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

• Support, but do you know where Eisenhower was when he gave the speech, and how many radio/TV networks broadcasted it? Zginder 2008-07-15T14:18Z (UTC)
  • He was in the Oval Office, however, I don't know how many networks broadcast it. Given the time period, I'd suspect most of the major ones (in America, possibly a scattering elsewhere). Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 12:20, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Promoted Image:Eisenhower farewell address.ogg OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 16:56, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

The Lost Chord

A wax cylinder recording from Edison's "Perfected" Phonograph, used in a press conference that introduced the phonograph to London.

This is not the earliest known recording of music: However, the earliest recording is this: [2] - which is almost unlistenable, thanks to severe degradation.

This recording, however, is less than a month and a half after that one, and is actually quite a good performance, after a few seconds, the distortion clears, and the middle section is surprisingly good. Though it ends a bit abruptly, given the timescales, I think that it is astounding.

Appears in Arthur Sullivan, The Lost Chord, Phonograph cylinder.

• Nominate and support. - Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 03:55, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
• support BTW: the oldest is of much historical importance and no matter how bad the quality, I would make it a FS. Zginder 2008-07-18T02:19Z (UTC)
• Strong support for historic reasons. Durova^Charge! 08:06, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Promoted Edison_cylinder_Lost_Chord.ogg --Filll (talk | wpc) 03:06, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Israel In Egypt

While the quality of this is abysmal, having been badly degraded by too many playings of the wax cylinder, this extract of Israel in Egypt is also the earliest bit of recorded music still in existence.[3] As such, it probably deserves to be a featured sound, despite its excessive flaws. 2m28s.

• Nominate and support. - Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 06:09, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
• Support, but can this be cleaned up a bit? Zginder 2008-08-01T17:07Z (UTC)
  • There's not really anything more to reveal underneath, as far as I can tell - it's perhaps more of an example of how phonograph cylinders degrade. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 17:18, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support as nominated. Its principal encyclopedic value is as a demonsration of early wax cylinder technology. Durova^Charge! 07:46, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Promoted --Seddσn ^{talk Editor Review} 04:13, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Le régiment de Sambre et Meuse

A particularly good quality recording for 1905, used in Army of Sambre-et-Meuse and Robert Planquette. One of Planquette's most popular works.

• Nominate and support. - Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 00:02, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
• Conditional support fantastic quality for 1905. Enjoyable listening, too. Lyrics in French and an English translation, please? Durova^Charge! 07:39, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
  • I've added a link to lyrics in French to the information page (anything linked here wouldn't reach the Featured Sounds list itself). I can certainly find translations, however, I want a copyright-free one, which means translating it myself, I guess. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 09:49, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
    • Thanks. Once the lyrics are ready in English the closer may count my vote as support. Durova^Charge! 13:45, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
      • Rama's linked to some on the main article. Will that do, or should I try and make a singable version? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 20:50, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support: Good quality (especially for something of its age) and enjoyable...... Dendodge .. Talk^Contribs 20:28, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

• Now used also on Le Régiment de Sambre et Meuse, where a few details are given, and links to English versions are provided. Rama (talk) 16:31, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Promoted Beaufort regiment de sambre et 1909 cd 1001.ogg --MZMcBride (talk) 16:06, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Ich bin ein Berliner

President John F. Kennedy's famous speech from the Berlin Wall, another landmark from the Cold War. Complete speech.

• Berlin Wall
• Ich bin ein Berliner
• John F. Kennedy

Complete transcript available at the Kennedy Presidential Library.[4]

• Nominate and support. - Durova^Charge! 23:11, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
• Could you put the transcript on WikiSource and add a link to the Ich bin ein Berliner article on the description page. Zginder 2008-07-13T01:01Z (UTC)

  That's been up for a long time; please see Ich_bin_ein_Berliner#External_links. Durova^Charge! 01:22, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

  • what is up with the recording around the end Kennedy's four paragraph? Zginder 2008-07-14T21:55Z (UTC)

There are indeed some sound artifacts in the recording. The reason for this is that we do not have the complete recording of the Kennedy speech in this recording. We are missing about half of it; most of the German translation is missing , and some of the English. The "cuts" in the original audio file introduced a variety of clicks and other strange sounds. This is not the fault of Wikipedia editors, since this edited version is the only public domain version that is available. From the Kennedy Library website [5]:

This text is the version published in the Public Papers of the Presidents: John F. Kennedy, 1963. Both this text and the audio version of this speech ommit the words of the German translator. This audio file was edited by the White House Signal Agency shortly after the speech was recorded. The White House Signal Agency was charged with recording only the words of the President. The Kennedy Library has an audiotape of a network broadcast of the full speech, with the translator's words, and a journalist's commentary. Because of copyright restrictions it is only available for listening at the Library for reasons of private study and scholarship.

Of course, filters could be created to reduce the size of these clicks and other audio discontinuities, at the cost of actually obscuring some of the information content. In particular, it is important to note that about half of this speech is missing. The clicks and other audio artifacts are a reminder of that, and are of historic interest. --Filll (talk | wpc) 22:27, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

• Support—Notable historical recording. Tony (talk) 13:53, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support Hey, why not? It's pretty good, and we aren't going to get better. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 14:34, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support: It's notable and encyclopedic - if a bit jumpy due the the cutting of translations. If we get something less jumpy, strong support that...... Dendodge .. Talk^Contribs 11:01, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Promoted Jfk berlin address high.ogg --MZMcBride (talk) 16:09, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

NorthAmericanDialTone

I was going through the dial tone article and found this. It is short, but following Shepard-Risset glissando it think it qualifies.

• Nominate - Zginder 2008-07-19T02:13Z (UTC)
• Comment the Shepard-Risset glissando is a notable acoustic illusion, and hard to find elsewhere. The dial tone is much simpler, however: What makes it special? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 20:05, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
• Where in the criteria does it say the recording must be special? Zginder 2008-07-23T02:27Z (UTC)
• Perhaps the question is, why should this recording be featured? I could imagine a sound collage of dial tones from all around the world being featured. So perhaps the criteria should be "Content. The recording content is noteworthy, interesting, engaging and useful for academic study", which in this case would not be the case. -- ☑ SamuelWantman 06:03, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
• Neutral Should be longer, at least. And I'm on the fence about whether it's distinctive enough to be encyclopedic. Should we treat this type of sound as analogous to featured vector graphics? Durova^Charge! 08:04, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

If we can get it a bit longer, then we could look into it further. There may well be a case for its inclusion, but the case would have to be explicitly made. But it's not going to happen when the recording is less than a second long. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 15:29, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose—I don't see how this could conceivably be considered among our best work. It's boring, too short, not notable. Tony (talk) 13:49, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose but Support as part of a dial tone collage: If this were to be put with different international dial tones to show the difference between them (and maybe made a bit longer) it would be FS-worthy, I believe...... Dendodge .. Talk^Contribs 10:43, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Not promoted --MZMcBride (talk) 16:13, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Song of the American robin

Audio files of bird calls are useful for identification and this is a fairly long recording of the song. Common species in North America, but exotic to the rest of the world. Recorded Sandbanks Provincial Park, Ontario, Canada -- 2007 May by Mdf.

• Nominate and support. - Durova^Charge! 08:14, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support Fine recording, clearly indicates what an American robin's song sounds like in nature. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 21:09, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support Good recording, very encyclopedic. -- Grandpafootsoldier (talk) 10:31, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support: Excellent quality and very encyclopedic...... Dendodge .. Talk^Contribs 16:54, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support very good. Zginder 2008-08-19T00:17Z (UTC)

Promoted Turdus-migratorius-003.ogg --MZMcBride (talk) 21:09, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Statement by the President in his Address to the Nation, September 11, 2001

An important speech. Appears at George W. Bush's first term as President of the United States and September 11, 2001 attacks.

• Conominate and support. Durova^Charge! 20:42, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support as conominator.--Filll (talk | wpc) 21:15, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support: Good quality, important recording...... Dendodge .. Talk^Contribs 21:16, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support. Good quality, and of great importance. bibliomaniac15 01:50, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support - can we get his 9/20/2001 speech and all of his state of the unions as well? Zginder 2008-08-19T14:08Z (UTC)
  • If you like. I try to spread out these presidential addresses to avoid an appearance of partisanship. Was planning to do a Democratic speech next. Durova^Charge! 14:46, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support As Dendodge and biblopmaniac said, it's a historic speech and good quality. Useful file, too. Enigma ^message 17:24, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Promoted GWBush Oval Office Address 20010911-1-.ogg --MZMcBride (talk) 02:45, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Chamberlain war declaration

This is a famous speech, marking the start of World War 2. The recording is currently used, along with a transcript, in Neville Chamberlain. The quality isn't perfect, but it's the best version we've got (or are going to get) and it's easy to understand what he's saying. As a historically significant, good quality recording, this deserved to be a featured sound. I have put the transcript on Wikisource - Wikisource:War with Germany declared.

• Nominate and support...... Dendodge .. Talk^Contribs 19:37, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support for historic importance. Durova^Charge! 21:50, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support Zginder 2008-08-21T04:40Z (UTC)

Promoted Chamberlain-war-declaration.ogg --MZMcBride (talk) 02:46, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Papua New Guinean ujangong mask dance

This phonograph cylinder recording is our only recording of traditional Papua New Guinean folk song, and it is unlikely we'll get another. Hence, this is an important window onto the culture and music of Papua New Guinea that... really is a unique opportunity for most of us Westerners. By the way, for anyone confused by the description: German New Guinea and Papua were combined into one territory after WWI, hence Papua New Guinea.

Used in: Phonograph cylinder, Culture of Papua New Guinea, Music of Papua New Guinea

• Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 17:45, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support per nom...... Dendodge .. Talk^Contribs 19:20, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Durova^Charge! 21:54, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Zginder 2008-08-26T23:46Z (UTC)

Promoted Ujangong.ogg --MZMcBride (talk) 02:46, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Au Clair de la Lune

Yes, this is a pre-Edison featured sound. I bet no-one was expecting that! This was not originally intended as a recording. Édouard-Léon Scott de Martinville created his device as a sort of early oscillograph, but in the last few months, it has been discovered that it is possible to play them back anyway. The press release revealing this surprising turn of events came out in March.

It also forces me to apologise for WP:Featured sound candidates/Israel In Egypt. While I had reliable sources saying it was the earliest known surviving music, well, that's the trouble with that word "known". While Israel in Egypt remains the earliest surviving phonograph cylinder recording of music - and the earliest surviving intentional recording of music, if someone feels this new discovery should replace it, do open a delist nomination. I think it still has merit as a featured sound, but I'll argue the case there, not in a different nom.

So, again, I apologise for not being fully up to date, and I hope you'll enjoy the surprise of a pre-Edison sound file as much as I did. Thanks to User:Rama for pointing me to this. More information is available at [6].

• Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 13:24, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
• Weak support: The historical significance of this file makes up for the bad quality. It is the quality that weakens my support, but this can be counted as a full support vote by the closer...... Dendodge .. Talk^Contribs 12:00, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support I was waiting for someone to nominate this. Durova^Charge! 21:55, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support even though I can not not here any human voice. Zginder 2008-08-19T00:15Z (UTC)

Promoted Au Clair de la Lune (1860).ogg --MZMcBride (talk) 02:47, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Wilson Star Spangled Banner

A pretty good recording of a patriotic song, eventually our national anthem, including a verse that is not heard in present times. Another astonishing fact is the recording was done by Margaret Woodrow Wilson, the daughter of American President Woodrow Wilson; the recording appears in Francis Scott Key (he penned the lyrics to our anthem), The Star-Spangled Banner and Margaret Woodrow Wilson, and the recording came from the Internet Archive.

• Nominate and support. - User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 07:44, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support either though I prefer the alternate. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 09:57, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
  • I am also not worried about which version is promoted, either one is fine. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 10:07, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support: A good quality (the second is better) historical recording of a well-known song...... Dendodge .. Talk^Contribs 20:25, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support per nomination. Prefer the alternate. Durova^Charge! 09:38, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
• If this is nominated for who sang it support, but his should not be the featured topic of the national anthem of the U.S.A. We need a good quality recording for that. Zginder 2008-08-27T16:42Z (UTC)
  • Finding recordings for our anthem isn't that hard, but it was nominated for who sung it. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 16:49, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Promoted MargaretWoodrowWilson-TheStarSpangledBanner.ogg --MZMcBride (talk) 02:53, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

N.B. - I've switched it from MargaretWoodrowWilson-TheStarSpangledBanner2.ogg to MargaretWoodrowWilson-TheStarSpangledBanner.ogg, as MargaretWoodrowWilson-TheStarSpangledBanner2.ogg never got the chance to be voted on due to a typo. There was a slight miscommunication. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 03:41, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Wow! signal

Appears in article Wow! signal, and was recorded by SETI in 1977. It is particularly important as it is the only sound captured to date that might be of alien origin.

• Nominate and support. diego_pmc (talk) 12:04, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
• Query Is this really the Wow signal? I mean, that was a radio telescope signal that, I believe, was recorded on printouts. How was the signal brought back down to the audible range? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 04:48, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Seems you're right (talk page). diego_pmc (talk) 09:11, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose This is not the Wow! signal. The Wow signal was received way above the range of human hearing (~1400 MHz I believe). Moreover, the signal itself was not recorded -- only its itensity was recorded, and that was recorded digitally. Madman (talk) 14:12, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose very noisy, not something I believe is a featured sound. --Kanonkas :  Talk  10:50, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose can this be closed. Zginder 2008-08-28T14:33Z (UTC)

Not promoted --Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 05:19, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Featured sound candidates/Jaap de Hoop Scheffer

There is a wealth of pronunciations in Commons that supports the use of Wiktionary and Wikipedia. It is relevant to know how a name is pronounced natively, this can help people when they talk about a person who is from a country that is foreign to them. This name is typically mispronounced.

• Nominate and support. GerardM (talk) 06:44, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose - if this is featured than any other audio of a correct prountiation of a name is 'just as featured'. This kind of audio is important in an article, but just not featured material. diego_pmc (talk) 14:05, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
• Comment I think accepting a proportion of these, as a symbolic gesture of thanks for them as a whole, would be a good idea, but we might need to plan out how to handle such things a bit more. We'd want to try and get all the major contributors, for instance. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 19:02, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose: It's simply a pronunciation recording - it might meet Wiktionary's featured sound criteria (if it has any) but it isn't really up to my standards| Dendodge .. Talk^Contribs 18:30, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
• Weak support for encyclopedic use and high quality ¡ Dendodge .. Talk^Contribs ! 21:51, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
• oppose For the same reason that voiced articles are not featurable. Zginder 2008-08-21T04:34Z (UTC)
• Oppose I can't see this sound as a featured sound. It's just one person talking & then done. --Kanonkas :  Talk  18:19, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Not promoted --Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 05:19, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Moonlight Sonata

Beethoven's music is amazing - I'd call him my favorite classical composer - and this piece is just... great. We need some Beethoven Featured Sounds, and this is my suggestion.

At least one of the files is used in each of the following articles:

• Ludwig van Beethoven
• Piano Sonata No. 14 (Beethoven)

• Nominate and support. ...... Dendodge .. Talk^Contribs 18:11, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support, one of my favorite pieces of work Xavexgoem (talk) 15:16, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
• The first file does not give a recording source. Zginder 2008-08-21T21:06Z (UTC)
  • I'm afraid Commons Helper mangles information a bit. It was self-made by a Wikipedian, User:Jfarjona. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 22:44, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support obviously FS worthy. Durova^Charge! 23:52, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support good quality, and nice music so a support from me. --Kanonkas :  Talk  10:40, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Promoted all, as set - Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 05:42, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Vivaldi's The Four Seasons

This is a bit of a procedural nomination: The first movement of "Spring" is already a featured sound, however, I think it's better to have the whole thing, instead of a sample for compositions of this type. Obviously, this doesn't mean we can't have extracts as featured sounds, but I don't see any reason why we can't have complete works either.

What I propose we do is have a new section: Multi-part works, which will give links to a subpage of the Featured sounds portal setting out the full work. This is probably a better solution than the "symbolic" promotion of only one part of a longer work, when there is no particular reason to single out that one part.

These are used in Vivaldi, and The Four Seasons (Vivaldi), possibly elsewhere.

This nomination is rather large. Click here to view

• Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 16:38, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support per nom (and replace current FS) Durova^Charge! 22:11, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support and replace the old one. Zginder 2008-08-29T14:35Z (UTC)

Promoted the whole work; this will replace the Spring Movement 1 Allegro. east718 // talk // email // 10:53, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Balkandji - Diavolska shterka

Ignoring subjective reasons (and I do think it's very good), this is folk metal, a major subgenre, it's by a major Bulgarian band, and the band have creative commons licenced it (!!!), making it free for us to use.

It's used on folk metal (only free-use sample on that page), Balkandji, and Probuzhdane.

• Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 06:05, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support. Excellent quality recording. Perfect example of the genre. Vassyana (talk) 09:51, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support per nom. and Vassyana's comments. We're lucky to have this under free license. Durova^Charge! 21:04, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Promoted Balkandji - Diavolska shterka.ogg east718 // talk // email // 10:50, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Schubert - Impromptu B-flat

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The following three variations have been combined for greater clarity and continuity. The combined version can be found below.

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Combined version of last three:

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Full version:

While not necessarily suggested for Featured sound, this sort of combined file can be useful in many cases - for instance, at Theme and variations. However, where space isn't an issue, just combining the last three is ample. - Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 13:03, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

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Schubert was an excellent and important composer, and, as such, I am nominating this set as my first piece of featured content. This is a whole impromptu, so nominating it as a set seems like the only reasonable way to do this. It is used in full in:

1. Franz Schubert
2. Impromptus (Schubert)

The main theme is also used in:

1. Rosamunde

• Nominate and support. ...... Dendodge .. Talk^Contribs 10:18, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Durova^Charge! 22:29, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
• We have never had a multi-file FS how are you going to do it? Support Zginder 2008-08-25T17:38Z (UTC)
  • I was thinking a link to a sub-page. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 18:21, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
    • I was thinking a subsection on the main FS page Dendodge|Talk^Contribs 18:24, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support per nom. However, would you mind if I combined the last three into one recording? there's an awkward jump between files caused by there not being intended to be a gap between those. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 20:22, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
  • No, I wouldn't mind at all - I'd do it myself but Audacity's on my broken laptop and I have no use for it on this desktop ¡ Dendodge .. Talk^Contribs ! 07:37, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
    • Done. You could probably make a case for making this one file, but I don't think it's as necessary =) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 12:31, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support a lot of files there but it's good quality, and the sound is good so no complaints here. --Kanonkas :  Talk  18:22, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Promoted. I'm not sure how you guys fill out the forms at FSC, but the consensus for promotion is rather clear. east718 // talk // email // 10:52, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Two songs by Carmen Miranda

Our first South Asia nom (as far as I'm aware - certainly, if it passes, these will be our first South American featured sounds). Carmen Miranda, the girl with the tutti-fruitti hat, was one of the earliest and biggest celebrities to come out of Brazil, still well-known today, and a classic singer of samba. These two songs are from her early work in Brazil, before she moved to America, which also places them right at the start of the rise of Brazillian popular music.

While not a set as such, it seems convenient to nominate them together - they provide a wider insight to Carmen Miranda's work that way, and I think they are of similar quality.

Used in Carmen Miranda, Music of Brazil, and Samba.

• Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 10:41, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
• What is its American copyright status? Zginder 2008-08-19T13:53Z (UTC)
  • Rule of the shortest term puts it out of copyright. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 13:55, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
    • The shortest term is not used in the Africa. Zginder 2008-08-19T14:13Z (UTC)
      • Checking, the Brazilian copyright act was revised in 1998, so the one currently active isn't the one that applies to figure out if this regained copyright in 1996. According to commons:Template_talk:PD-Brazil-media, works before 1936 were in the public domain in 1996. Hence, these are out of copyright in America. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 10:26, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support I am convinced. Zginder 2008-08-20T22:45Z (UTC)
• Support (snaps fingers) I should've gotten to Carmen Miranda sooner. Durova^Charge! 23:51, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support great stuff. Lots of recordings from singers of all types is available from the 1930s and if some is it out of copyright we should make use of it. --Kleinzach 06:02, 29 August 2008 (UTC) P.S. Next Carlos Gardel? --Kleinzach 06:05, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

• Promoted after 14 days by Mitch32 - Mitch32^(UP) 14:41, 31 August 2008 (UTC)