Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/delist/Into the Jaws of Death 2
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- Reason
- Current FP is a damaged image, not used anymore, has been replaced by proposed FP replacement. I perfer the enhancements (dodging & burning) of the proposed replacement's print over the very bright current version. Iconic famous photograph, high resolution, well made print. Has an article about this specific picture. Was nominated before (Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Into the Jaws of Death)
and a lighter damaged print exists (File:1944 NormandyLST.jpg). I think of the two versions (ignoring the damage in the second one) the darker dodging and more selecting burning of this print is more dramatic, and is the widely used of the two now. Image was used on the May 28, 1984 Time Cover. A restored high resolution scan of this version. - Articles in which this image appears
- Into the Jaws of Death, 1st Infantry Division (United States), 1944 in the United States, Allies of World War II, Amphibious warfare, History of the United States, Invasion of Normandy, Michael J. Daly, Normandy landings, Omaha Beach, Photojournalism, Robert F. Sargent, Timeline of World War II (1944), USS Samuel Chase (APA-26).
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/World War II
- Creator
- Chief Photographer's Mate (CPHoM) Robert F. Sargent
- Delist & Replace --— raekyt 02:39, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Comment - The damaged one is already an FP, so this may have be a delist and replace nom. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:38, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Oops, yea and it's not used anywhere. — raekyt 12:59, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Which is closest to the original? The damaged image is a completely different aspect ratio, and if the EV is in the photograph as a photograph, then any modification reduces the EV. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:13, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Also, it seems the photograph was taken in the morning, perhaps within four hours after sunrise. (ship was empty by 11 am) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:16, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Remember these are prints, it's a battlefield, so smoke would darken the sky... all that jazz. In the darkroom you can do a lot by dodging and burning. The replacement print is the one at the Franklin D. Roosevelt Library. The current FP looks to be a quick print that the photographer didn't spend much time or any dodging and burning it, theres many flaws that have been removed in the proposed replacement. — raekyt 13:40, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Good point. What about the aspect ratio? The "quick print" seems to have more information. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:39, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Don't know about the aspect ratio, bad scan? The current FP is of unknown origins for it's scan. The proposed change was made as part of ADAPT project. Looking at both images the current FP is clearly less focused, more blurry, and the proposed change has better detail and focus. There's slightly more information on the left part of the frame and slightly less on the right. But again due to hand print making of negatives in a darkroom slight variations in the edges crop will exist. As for the aspect, the difference is fairly minor, but due to the sourcing and providence of the suggested replacement I'd be more inclined to trust it's scan/print. — raekyt 18:55, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Good point. What about the aspect ratio? The "quick print" seems to have more information. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:39, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Remember these are prints, it's a battlefield, so smoke would darken the sky... all that jazz. In the darkroom you can do a lot by dodging and burning. The replacement print is the one at the Franklin D. Roosevelt Library. The current FP looks to be a quick print that the photographer didn't spend much time or any dodging and burning it, theres many flaws that have been removed in the proposed replacement. — raekyt 13:40, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Oops, yea and it's not used anywhere. — raekyt 12:59, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- D&R per nom, although the fact that the current one is unused sways me most. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:47, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- D&R Adam Cuerden (talk) 05:31, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
- D&R Rreagan007 (talk) 19:21, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Replaced with File:Into the Jaws of Death 23-0455M edit.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 16:38, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
- The replaced picture isn't used on any article. Armbrust The Homunculus 16:38, 4 April 2013 (UTC)