Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Wüzburg Residence
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 11 Jun 2010 at 21:53:28 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a great panorama of the Würzburg Residence and the beginnings of its Court Gardens, which is a UNESCO World Heritage Site. It really brings out the harmony and elegance of the Baroque architectural style.
- Articles in which this image appears
- Würzburg Residence, Johann Balthasar Neumann, Maximilian von Welsch
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
- Creator
- Rainer Lippert
- Support as nominator --NauticaShades 21:53, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- Weak support. It's a nice panorama with good composition, but the image quality is slightly lacking. It's particularly noticable in the detail on either side of the building, but thankfully not too bad on the subject. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 22:10, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I noticed that. Luckily, it doesn't seem to affect the detail on the building itself : ) NauticaShades 23:06, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
SupportI find the composition impressive.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:49, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
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- Images added to Johann Balthasar Neumann per discussion. NauticaShades 10:54, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support - Has a good resolution. - ☩Damërung ☩. -- 00:20, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
- Weak support per Diliff. Jujutacular T · C 01:58, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support. Some fun little things going on (burgular? UFOs? Eiffel Tower?) but a wonderfully uncluttered photograph, well taken, that illustrates the building extremely well. I have absolutely no problem supporting this. J Milburn (talk) 10:54, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
- oooooo this is like Where's Wally! I can see the burglars and the Eiffel Tower, but where's the UFO?!Gazhiley (talk) 11:27, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
- Above the left side of the building- I assume they're distant birds. I'll be honest, that was the least interesting of three :) J Milburn (talk) 15:56, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support per J MilburnGazhiley (talk) 11:03, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support A nice high resolution photograph of an architectural wonder. By the way, what's with the rock in the front? Haljackey (talk) 16:43, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
- Weak Support per Dilif. The quality of many similar pano FPs is a bit higher, but is still a nice image, an I am happy it features a human to demonstrate the scale of the building. --Elekhh (talk) 00:54, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support: Good illustration of the subject. Central to the article. --Redtigerxyz Talk 18:10, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
??Comment?? Just how in the world does one have shadows on the right-hand end of the building that are caused by the sun coming from the right, while over on the other end of the building, the shadows are coming from the other direction? There can only be one sun. There appears to be too much photoshopping going on here, including in clouds above the center of the building. Greg L (talk) 01:40, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
- If the sun is comming, let's say, fron the front, and since the building is wide you will manage to see the shadow of the columns on the left to their right and those of the right to their left. Just in the same way, in perspective, you see parallel lines converging. Abisharan (talk) 10:25, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Not possible. You are describing parallax across a building. The sun is 93 million miles away; the angle subtended across the width of a building is too small to measure (though it could be calculated). There can not possibly be parallax effects with the sun unless the building were so wide it spanned across multiple time zones. Moreover, the parallax effect you are describing that could be produced with a single, nearby light source would produce shadows heading the opposite direction from what we see here. If a single, nearby light source (not the sun as you described) was located in the courtyard in front of the camera, the shadows would be heading towards the right on the right-hand side of the picture and the opposite would be true on the left-hand side; that’s the opposite of what we see here. Two light sources would be required to produce these shadows.Let’s imagine we’re looking north. On the right-hand side of this picture, the sun is casting shadows as if it is rising in the east, right? Now look at the left-hand side of the picture; the shadows appear like the sun is setting in the west. This is absolutely impossible. I can think of only two ways to explain the shadows in this picture: 1) different photographs were taken at different times of the day, or 2) one photograph was taken but there was mirroring and a pile of retouching done.
After studying this picture very closely, it appears it was #1: photographs taken at entirely different times of the day and stitched together. It clearly appears that the left side building was photographed at a different time of the day. Check it out closely. Start with the right-hand side of the building and work your way to the left. Note how the shadows all look like the morning sun if we’re looking north. Then, as one gets to the center of the building, the shadows suddenly reverse as one works across the four columns. This image is impossible hocus pocus and seems to have gone well over the line with regard to Featured Picture Criteria #8: inappropriate digital manipulation. Greg L (talk) 13:23, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
- This is in fact quite possible - see below. --jjron (talk) 15:57, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support Interesting picture. Greg L (talk) 19:02, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
- That is not what I am saying. The reason is much more simple than that. Since the sun is so far away the lines passing through the columns and their respective shadows are almost parallel. As are most of the lines in this picture. Nevertheless you see them converging. That is what I am saying could be happening, which is the most common of the illusions, perspective. No parallax or conspiracy needed to explain it. Of course, I have no idea how really the picture was produced. But if so simple explanation is at hand and in WP we assume good faith... Do the experiment. Find a street going East-West, step in the middle of it (carefully) and look at the shadow of the traffic lights in both sidewalks. Abisharan (talk) 13:45, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
- This building faces East and the file's meta-data says it was generated at 7:56 (I guess it is AM) which agrees with the sun coming right from the front. Abisharan (talk) 13:53, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
- For the deeper shadows in the circle in the center just search the building in google maps. There are taller trees on that side and again, If the image was taken that early with the sun coming right from behind the photographer you will get them there. Abisharan (talk) 14:00, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, Abisharan is quite right. If the photographer was centred onto the building it appears the sun was just slightly over their right shoulder. For a similar effect refer to my Australian Parliament House image where a morning sun was coming from behind and a bit to the left. You can see a bit of the effect in the portico where the shadows on the left and right differ, while not actually completely 'changing direction', but the further spread the things are the more you get the effect - look at the cutouts in the roofline and the short posts in the foreground where the shadows do 'change direction'. I can assure you there was no trickery in the production of my image, it was all taken within a matter of a couple of minutes. --jjron (talk) 15:57, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
- I agree. I was full of a colossal boat-load of crap. All we are seeing here is viewer-perspective parallax where the sun is almost exactly behind the photographer. I’m sorry for inducing everyone to have to spend time explaining the drop-dead obvious to me. Greg L (talk) 19:02, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
- Comment I am totally confused on the architect. The caption suggests four architects, but the image is included in the article of a fifth architect. What gives?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:26, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
- The palace took something like 80 years to complete. Many architects, including the four others in the caption, were employed as consultants. Johann Balthasar Neumann was the main architect, I believe, hence the image in his article. I've fixed the caption to reflect this. NauticaShades 14:43, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. Not sure why you did not include it in a couple other architects, but I will leave that to you. I have struck my oppose.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:18, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
- Well, the other four were just consultants, and three of their articles had images already, so I thought it wasn't necessary. I've since added the image to Maximilian von Welsch, though, since his article lacked any images. NauticaShades 10:58, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. Not sure why you did not include it in a couple other architects, but I will leave that to you. I have struck my oppose.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:18, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
- The palace took something like 80 years to complete. Many architects, including the four others in the caption, were employed as consultants. Johann Balthasar Neumann was the main architect, I believe, hence the image in his article. I've fixed the caption to reflect this. NauticaShades 14:43, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
- Weak Support per Diliff. --jjron (talk) 16:05, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support Very interesting building and well executed photograph. — raeky (talk | edits) 17:48, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:Würzburger Residenz, Gartenfront.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 14:48, 12 June 2010 (UTC)