Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Lolicon
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 20 Dec 2011 at 15:02:08 (UTC)
- Reason
- I've had this waiting on my user page for a while, so I might as well get this out of the way. Before I get sacrificed to the lions, please listen to me. First, a bit of history about the image. It was uploaded on 4 November 2007 by Kasuga, the creator of Wikipe-Tan (he seems to be retired now) after a request by Nihonjoe two days earlier. The image was inserted into the lolicon article and replaced a now-deleted image considered of inferior quality. Since then, it has continued to be used as the main image in 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2011, continuing to serve as one of the best images Wikimedia has to describe the genre. In the hentai article, the image was inserted on 3 April 2010 by Atomaton to illustrate one of the kinds of hentai available. It does not seem to have been removed since.
The image itself reflects several qualities of lolicon (an abbreviation of lolita complex) images, notably that it portrays female models with childish features in a cute (kawaii) and possibly sexually suggestive manner. Although Kasuga himself noted that he would not produce pornography, he noted that "[he] drew [this picture] noting to not become too indecent"; I agree that it is a fairly tasteful way of expressing basic characteristics of lolicon. Its use of colours also seems to promote an understanding of the basic characteristics of lolicon, with white representing innocence.
In short, I think this should qualify as a featured picture as it is of high quality (resolution, art style) and encyclopedic value, as indicated by its consistent use and representation of the subject. I understand that it will probably not be able to be used on the main page, but that is not the main goal of FP. Also, it should be noted that we have previously promoted user-created original drawings like this. - Articles in which this image appears
- Lolicon, Hentai
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Diagrams, drawings, and maps/Drawings
- Creator
- Kasuga
- Support as nominator --Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:02, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose Lots of aliasing at full magnification. (See, for instance, their eyes and the outline of their hair). Fallingmasonry (talk) 21:06, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose. Is this really a can of worms you want to open? Ignoring the obvious controversial aspects- Yes, we have promoted user-made drawings in the past, but that pirate picture would not pass today, and to promote something like this, I think I would want to see something from a notable artist or a reputable source. Equally, I would not support featuring "some Wikipedian's" interpretation of surrealist art or death metal or beauty. I'd want to see things that reputed sources pointed to. J Milburn (talk) 21:25, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Comment The girls look too young even for lolicon and the image has a lesbian undertone. If we are about to promote lolicon, I'd support the images like this one or this. Brandmeister t 23:21, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- From an objective viewpoint, I think the first (pink hair) is a little overly sexualized and the second (brown hair) has poor backlighting. Of course, if it isn't free we can't use it anyways LOL. From my understanding, Lolicon includes those who appear much younger as well, not just 13+. I mean, Nagi in the harem show Hayate the Combat Butler doesn't look more than 10 at times. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:35, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose very bad aliasing at full size. Clegs (talk) 09:55, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 15:44, 20 December 2011 (UTC)