Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Clara Bow
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Voting period ends on 24 Dec 2024 at 00:21:49 (UTC)
- Reason
- High quality image from 1930s; most likely the best photograph of Bow
- Articles in which this image appears
- Clara Bow, Glossary of early twentieth century slang in the United States
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Entertainment
- Creator
- Harold Dean Carsey
- Support as nominator – Wcamp9 (talk) 00:21, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support — Hounaam (talk) 03:54, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Oppose - please restore. MER-C 11:58, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- I will do this. Yann (talk) 18:21, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Restoration done. High quality and resolution, so it was easy and fun. Yann (talk) 21:05, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Support alt 1. MER-C 11:48, 13 December 2024 (UTC)- Support (original). MER-C 13:36, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support with a preference for Alt 1 — Yann (talk) 21:05, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support Alt 1 Wcamp9 (talk) 21:46, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Support Alt 1 –Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 02:09, 12 December 2024 (UTC)- Support Alt 1 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:41, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support Original, the original is now restored as well (by Yann). It has the original tone. It is well preserved, so I see no reason to remove the tone and convert to grayscale. Oppose Alt 1, photo is well preserved, therefore removing the tone is original research FP criterion #6. Bammesk (talk) 17:46, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Saying that a grayscale version is original research is quite farfetched IMO, since this is originality a black and white picture, and that the tone was added later. Yann (talk) 12:22, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- "WP:Original research" means there is no source to support this was originally published in grayscale. Plus no indication the color tone is an unintended defect. Even in modern times some B&W photos are published with a color tone [1][2]. Bammesk (talk) 16:04, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- And where is the evidence that the tone is original? The picture comes from Internet Archive, not a primary source. Sorry, but this looks like a strawman argument to me. Yann (talk) 09:44, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have no reason to doubt Internet Archive [3], because a color tone on an older photo isn't unusual, example [4]. You wrote: "the tone was added later", and I challenged this assertion. That's not a straw man argument. Bammesk (talk) 04:25, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- I would agree if the picture comes from a GLAM, or we can see the original print, but that's not the case here. Yann (talk) 18:27, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- No problem. I go with the "Original" and oppose "Alt 1" because it's unsourced and I don't see a convincing rationale for it. The Internet Archive copy comes from the collection of a private photographer/archivist. That's as good as doctormacro.com and ebay where we get some of our FPs from [5][6][7]. Bammesk (talk) 01:27, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support Original Restored original now looking good.–Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 07:00, 15 December 2024 (UTC)