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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 30 Jul 2024 at 10:27:17 (UTC)

Withdrawn by nominator. Moonreach (talk) 14:49, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reason
Historically significant animation in the evolution of CGI and Pixar, that still holds entertainment value despite not being made for that purpose.
Articles in which this image appears
Pixar, Beach Chair (film test)
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Film
Creator
Eben Ostby
Adam, I don't see that in the FPC voting instructions, or the closing instructions. Also I don't think that's a good idea, because it would make it easy to double vote with a sockpuppet account. Bammesk (talk) 01:07, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose – Gimmicky. Lacks EV. – Sca (talk) 12:41, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - The EV is in showing at what level computer animation was in 1986, nine years before Toy Story was released... --Janke | Talk 14:49, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This is correct - it should be noted that this test film predates The Abyss, which is the first full film to feature CGI water. I think it's a good representation of not just the technology of CGI at the time, but also what experimental CGI productions were like in the late 80s to early 90s, typically being plotless and very short, intended less for a general audience and more for animators in the CGI industry. I also think it holds educational value specifically pertaining to Pixar in a vacuum as well as CGI, as AFAIK it, alongside Luxo Jr., was the first instance of the "What if *insert object or abstract concept here* had feelings?" concept that Pixar - and American CGI animation in general - has become known for. RockosModernLifeFan848 (talk) 16:50, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Source is 720p, rather than 360p. Also, source has the Pixar splash screen/logo that is excluded here.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 17:07, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I hade updated the upload to a higher quality download, now 1080p, using the same source as my update - It still lacks the Pixar intro logo however. RockosModernLifeFan848 (talk) 17:43, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm leaning support, but wonder if we should have the intro logo. On the whole, Support: The Pixar logo trademarks might limit use more. Although, if we can get the Pixar logo, that'd probably be a neat addition to the Pixar page. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.9% of all FPs. 19:35, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Its interesting to see a work by Pixar in the public domain so why not? GamerPro64 01:38, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The Pixar article never discusses Beach Chair except in the video's caption, and Beach Chair (film test) is a stub that doesn't currently demonstrate significant coverage (the references are the video on YouTube and two 2-sentence mentions in books). hinnk (talk) 05:36, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – assuming the (public domain) copyright tag is valid. Bammesk (talk) 13:28, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Do we know if the animation was ever legally published before 1 March 1989? The Wikipedia article says that it was exhibited in 1986, but the s:Copyright Act of 1976 says that "A public performance or display of a work does not of itself constitute publication." Though, the Copyright Office's Circular 45 says that exhibiting a film at a film festival may constitute publication if "copies [are] made and [are] ready for distribution." prospectprospekt (talk) 15:41, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Its article says its an easter egg in Pixar Short Films Collection, Volume 1 so I would assume if its copywritten they would have added a copyright in the DVD. GamerPro64 04:48, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      The back of the Pixar Short Films Collection, Volume 1 DVD has copyright notices for the short films in the collection (all without a year, except for The Adventures of André & Wally B.). There's an additional notice that says "Pixar Shorts © 2011 Disney/Pixar". There's no mention of Beach Chair or Flags and Waves in either the description of the contents or the copyright notices, take from that what you will. hinnk (talk) 05:08, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      I looked up the Liquid Television episode featuring Beach Chair, and there is no copyright notice for it in the credits - it is listed as being distributed by "Expanded Entertainment". The fact the film had a distributor basically confirms it's copyrighted, so I will remove the file and repeal the entry. RockosModernLifeFan848 (talk) 09:22, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment — I'm uneasy about the argument that this is PD, especially considering the discussion above. It seems likely that Pixar still considers "Beach Chair" copyrighted, and the only way to find out definitively would be a lawsuit. I don't think this is worth it. Moonreach (talk) 17:26, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --RockosModernLifeFan848 (talk) 09:22, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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