Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Battle of Franklin
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- Reason
- Important chromolithograph with high EV. the unrestored image in the article was replaced with this one.
- Articles in which this image appears
- Battle of Franklin
- FP category for this image
- Artworks
- Creator
- Kurz and Allison, edited by Mmxx
- Support as nominator -- ■ MMXX talk 18:55, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
- Comment It appears the work was done from the TIFF file, which, after cropping, unfortunately doesn't meet the size requirements. You also replaced a previous version of the same image (you should mention this in your reason above). – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies 19:23, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
- Because the old image is replaced with better restoration of the same file (compare), I didn't think it's necessary to mention it here or wait for 7 days before nominating, anyway, this comment should be enough to inform other users. I've also overwrote this file with a high resolution version. ■ MMXX talk 19:05, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- I should've been clearer. I meant that you should've mentioned (in the original reason) that you replaced a previously stable version with a better quality version; this way people know the image is technically already stable. It's mentioned in the criteria. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies 19:17, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Because the old image is replaced with better restoration of the same file (compare), I didn't think it's necessary to mention it here or wait for 7 days before nominating, anyway, this comment should be enough to inform other users. I've also overwrote this file with a high resolution version. ■ MMXX talk 19:05, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Support. Image looks good and well illustrates that the Confederates were charging up at the Yankees.TCO (talk) 20:29, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- Opppose, sorry: The colours are over-saturated, and the crop should not have removed the text which is an inherent part of these sort of lithographs. While I can understand why you made those decisions - and Kurz and Allison are particularly difficult lithographers to do well, due to the limited colour palettes - it's just too far from the original artistic intent. Adam Cuerden (talk) 13:41, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback. actually this version didn't need much restoration, I only adjusted the levels by sampling the whites and blacks. the image is not saturated, but I'm not sure if colors are correct or not, you can also compare it with this version. about the crop, I noticed that you didn't remove the border in this FP, but IMO the text doesn't adds much to its EV and image looks better without the border in the article. ■ MMXX talk 15:34, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- As an article writer, I often prefer writing or captions or the like from originals cropped out. It becomes crufty if we have our own caption along with one in image. And remember the writer is using the image to illustrate his topic, not really planning on users clicking and making the image bigger and all that. (This is different if the article is actually about the artwork though.)TCO (talk) 17:08, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- But it, by definition, ceases being one of the best images on Wikipedia once you change it too much. This is a lithograph, not a painting, and lithographs have a different aesthetic that should not be turned into a painting aesthetic. Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:53, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- As an article writer, I often prefer writing or captions or the like from originals cropped out. It becomes crufty if we have our own caption along with one in image. And remember the writer is using the image to illustrate his topic, not really planning on users clicking and making the image bigger and all that. (This is different if the article is actually about the artwork though.)TCO (talk) 17:08, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback. actually this version didn't need much restoration, I only adjusted the levels by sampling the whites and blacks. the image is not saturated, but I'm not sure if colors are correct or not, you can also compare it with this version. about the crop, I noticed that you didn't remove the border in this FP, but IMO the text doesn't adds much to its EV and image looks better without the border in the article. ■ MMXX talk 15:34, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 19:04, 7 June 2013 (UTC)