Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/1830 Thompson plat of Chicago
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- Reason
- This is a copy of the first plat of Chicago, made by James Thompson on August 4, 1830. While the original plat burned in the Great Chicago Fire in 1871, this copy was used by the Canal Commissioners to sell land parcels and by the written statement dates to at least 1836. An inferior version of this plat was denied Featured Picture status in 2010, but given that this copy has higher resolution and is much closer to the original I think it has a better shot. (Another piece of trivia, the Chicago Historical Society moved out of the address in the upper left corner in 1932.)
- Articles in which this image appears
- James Thompson (surveyor), 108 North State Street, Sauganash Hotel
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/USA History
- Creator
- John M Wolfson
- Support as nominator – – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 22:23, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose Article created today by nominator. This is not how things should be done. I have no idea of notability. Charlesjsharp (talk) 23:06, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- While I created the article on Thompson himself today, the picture/plat itself has been used in a couple of other articles for a longer period of time, at least a decade with this previous version, and a couple of days for this particular version. I decided to forego the customary 7 days as I believed that this constituted a higher-quality version of an image that has been up for a decade (and had been at FPC unsuccessfully in 2010); if you believe such decision was erroneous and negatively impacts this nomination I can withdraw this and renominate it about a week from now. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 23:26, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Comment on resolution I uploaded a 2728 x 1944 version of the file, but when I enter it on fullscreen the old 1633 x 1164 version still appears. Apologies if others are having the same issue. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 00:11, 14 January 2020 (UTC)Nevermind, it's working now. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 03:49, 14 January 2020 (UTC)- Which of the writings on the map are authentic to the original? The ones that aren't should be removed. MER-C 06:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- I don't quite know for certain, but I believe that the "Chicago Maps 180" at the upper right corner (as well as the reversed image on the other side of the paper, by the "Property of the Chicago Historical Society" in the upper left corner), the "0296 Chicago 1830" on the lower right corner, the "G4104..." on the lower left corner, and the "Property of the Chicago Historical Society" are not original parts of the plat. I do not however have the technical skills to remove them without making it look terrible. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 06:32, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose – Poor definition; topic lacks EV. – Sca (talk) 14:11, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- I don't agree that the topic lacks EV; this is (at least a contemporaneous copy of) the first map of Chicago. I might very well be conflating historical significance and EV, but this map is used on various articles and a version has been used for at least a decade on Wikipedia. As for definition, I might be misunderstanding this as well, as this is my first time at FPC, but I can see if I can increase the contrast. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 16:58, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- I have thought about this and I have decided to withdraw the nomination at this time. This is my first time at FPC, and I'd like to have more time to improve the image (and the article to the extent that I can) before I renominate it. I thank you all for your consideration. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 01:12, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
Not promoted --– John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 00:59, 20 January 2020 (UTC)