Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/United States presidential elections in Oklahoma/archive2

Nominator(s): Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 08:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fresh off a recent copy edit I feel I have addressed the issues that sunk the first nomination and hope to get it passed on the second go around. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 08:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Kavyansh

From my previous FLC comments: "Since it first joined the United States in 1907," : How many times has Oklahoma joined the United States?
Link all the names in the table, even on multiple occourances.

Looking much better! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 11:28, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 19:11, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 05:13, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Is there an appropriate link for "electoral votes" for non-US people who don't necessarily know how the system over there works?
"The state's electoral votes were reduced to eight votes" => "The state's electoral votes were reduced to eight"
"Oklahoma initially vacillated between" - can you find a different verb than "vacillated"? It conveys a sense of every resident standing in front of the ballot box quivering and saying "I just can't decide who to vote for" :-)
"Oklahoma was last considered a swing state during the presidential campaigns of Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton." - and when was that?
That's what I got -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:40, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude: I addressed all your comments, though in regard to the last one I linked to the election and not the specific campaign. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 19:19, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:09, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Staraction

"Republicans having won every single Oklahoma county since the 2004 presidential election" -> "Republicans have won every county in Oklahoma since the 2004 presidential election" Done
"Democrats have won without the state eight times, the most recent in Joe Biden's election in 2020" -> "Democrats have won without the state eight times, most recently in Joe Biden's victory in 2020" Done
Perhaps include Henry D. Irwin, mentioned in the lede, in footnote b? Done
"The state later passed a law..." -> would it be possible to find out when? That seems like the type of tidbit that would make the news, with a date attached; the source cited even mentions it was 1961. The source also mentions a constitutional amendment - perhaps elaborate on that? Done
Is there a reason why, under 1920, Eugene Debs' vote percentage is rounded 5.29% from source to 5.3% in the article? fixed
Dewey did not win nationally in 1948 (later edit, got a little joy out of remembering Dewey Defeats Truman here) Done
Maybe change "William H. Taft" and "William Taft" -> "William Howard Taft", per WP:COMMONNAME? This is up to you though, since it isn't an article title. Done
Source 38: "Ok Elections" -> "OK Election Results" Done
Sources 38 and 39 are not consistent despite being from the same source; additionally please archive source 39
Please archive sources 1, 2, 12, 13, etc. (probably just use IABot) Done

Thanks for your work, @User:OlifanofmrTennant; please ping me after you review these suggestions, and let me know if you disagree with any of them! Staraction (talk | contribs) 00:02, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Staraction: done. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 09:47, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"An amendment to the Constitution of Oklahoma had been passed earlier in the year..." -> what did the amendment do?
"Republicans have won every single county in Oklahom\

since the 2004 presidential election." -> I've just gone ahead and fixed this

Ref 2 has cite error (archive date mismatch)

Thanks for your work, @OlifanofmrTennant; please ping me after you review these suggestions, and let me know if you disagree with any of them! Staraction (talk | contribs) 15:08, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Staraction: done :D Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 22:29, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

One last thing, @OlifanofmrTennant - per MOS:NOW, what are your thoughts on changing the sentence, "Oklahoma initially fluctuated between voting Democrat and Republican, but it has recently come to be considered a safely red state" (emphasis mine)? Staraction (talk | contribs) 22:50, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would be up to it. What do you propose? Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 23:03, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, scratch what I said before - you do well in explaining, for example, that Johnson was the last Democrat to win the state; I think I'd just remove "recently". So instead, "Oklahoma initially fluctuated between voting Democrat and Republican,[perhaps a citation here? up to you] but it has come to be considered a safely red state". Gets rid of the problem with defining when "recently" is. But ultimately, this is up to you and a lot less solid than my previous suggestions. Staraction (talk | contribs) 00:46, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Staraction: Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 08:21, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Staraction (talk | contribs) 15:09, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source review

Citation 1 should use {{cite map}} Done
The work parameter is not appropriate for citations 2, 7, 21, 25–34, and 38–39; they should be replaced with the respective government agencies or publishers, such as the Oklahoma State Election Board. Done
Citation 13 uses a different date format from the rest of the citations. 'Done
The live results used for citations 35, 36, and 37 should be replaced with either the official/certified results from the Oklahoma State Election Board or Leip's Atlas for consistency.
Citation 38 uses the wrong title. Done

Mostly formatting issues that need to be resolved. Sounder Bruce 03:03, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@SounderBruce: I've done everything but replace the refs. Is there a reason to do so? Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 07:47, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@OlifanofmrTennant: The live results did not account for recounts, cured ballots, and other later counts. For example, the 2008 tally for the New York Times differs from what the state and Leip both report. For the sake of consistency, we should be using the same set of sources for every entry in the table and correcting as needed. Sounder Bruce 04:40, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@SounderBruce: swapped Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 09:50, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The new citations need to have dates added. Sounder Bruce 21:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The new citations have dates added? Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 22:10, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pass source review based on the FL criteria. Sounder Bruce 04:31, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]