Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Philadelphia Baseball Wall of Fame/archive1
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was promoted by Geraldk 20:11, 21 October 2009 [1].
- Nominator(s): KV5 (Talk • Phils) 19:27, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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This is one of the few lists related to the Phillies that I haven't brought to FL yet. The main reason is because the old format wouldn't have been able to pass through the metal detector here. However, I completely revamped the format (just today!) and I think it's ready. The only concern that I have is that I have not been able to find another written source on the web that verifies the members of the Centennial Team. I know that they are correct, in my head, but my head is not a reliable source. There are also quite a few pictures out there that show what's on the current plaque at Citizens Bank Park and what was on the old plaque at the Vet. HOWEVER, I could use some help from reviewers on finding a source. I bet that it's in the "New Phillies Encyclopedia", which is a resource that I would love to have at my disposal, but my local library does not have it, and I have never been able to get my hands on it. Online versions that I've found don't show the info because it's not available as a free or limited preview source. Anyway, aside from that issue, this should be ready to go. I'll address everything and anything I can as quickly and efficiently as possible. Thanks. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 19:27, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments: I'm not a reviewer, but I noticed that this image doesn't have a description. Suede67 (talk) 22:57, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- It's done now. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 00:39, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Diaa
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- Support The list is of featured quality and has a very well written prose with a good table style.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 23:16, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Giants2008 (17–14) 19:25, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply] |
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Comments – List looks clean, except for these few comments. To address a couple of the above comments: quality of images/media is not a criterion in any article review processes I know of (we are dealing with free content, and beggers can't be choosers most of the time), and inline citations are not required in the lead if general references or cites in the table cover facts.
Came here to support, but ran into one OR concern on a second look: the "possibly due to the Phillies' win in the 1980 World Series" bit in Centennial Team cries out for a cite. Giants2008 (17–14) 19:25, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Support – Thought about this one more than I usually do, and think that the one section in question is uncontroversial enough to be all right as is. Rest of the list looks fine. Giants2008 (17–14) 23:11, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:40, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
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Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:07, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
CommentsSupport "Once Veterans Stadium closed in 2003, the wall plaques used to recognize the members were moved to Citizens Bank Park; however, the Phillies no longer induct notable Athletics." needs a source or two, one for the move and one for the no-more-Athletics (though that could be in a common source). Staxringold talkcontribs 16:47, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I think the general ref verifies the second, as no Athletics have been inducted since the close of the Vet. I will try to locate a ref for the move of the plaques. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 16:50, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- If the general ref is going to serve as the reference for that fact I think the sentence needs rewording so it doesn't sound like there's a verified/sourced policy shift. Something like "No Athletics have been inducted since XXXX". Staxringold talkcontribs 16:52, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Since I like the current wording, I've added another ref from the A's Historical Society to supplement the general ref. This should cover both facts. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 16:59, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm only worried about "arguably". That's pure original research. If there's a quote you can use then fine. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:01, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- No idea why the discussion moved, but again I say: there is no reference. If all it takes is removing "arguably", I'll do it, but it invites argument. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 18:16, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- This was addressed below under TRM's resolved cap. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 16:50, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 16:43, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply] |
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The Rambling Man (talk) 17:19, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Geraldk (talk) 20:12, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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