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NWA World Welterweight Championship

Nominator(s): MPJ-US 23:37, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list as the third part of a wrestling trilogy of FLs that already has the NWA World Light Heavyweight Championship and NWA World Middleweight Championship. This article has incorporated everything I learned from the other two FLs (and others) and is a Feature List quality article. MPJ-US 23:37, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from GRAPPLE ^X 08:16, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

*Comments

"the title was given the NWA-prefix" -> Shouldn't be hyphenated

Fixed

"The title was once again inactive after the J-Crown concept was abandoned, until just over a year later when the championship was used by Toryumon where Dragon Kid became the first Toryumon promoted champion it. from 1999 until 2007 the championship was promoted exclusively by Toryumon, mainly in Japan and occasionally in Torymon's Mexican branch." -> Something is wrong here. It seems the first sentence doesn't really end.

Yeah the first sentence just kinda petered out, I fixed it I believe.

I feel that "the first NWA Mexico promoted Welterweight Champion", "a New Japan Pro Wrestling promoted tournament", "the first Toryumon promoted champion" and "the last CMLL promoted NWA World Welterweight champion" should probably have "promoted" hyphenated with the previous word. You may want a second opinion on this though.

Fixed

Not sure it's wise having a new colour for the ongoing title reigns. It's not likely to be of much concern for now but as the belt trades hands over the next few years you may find this getting disproportionate; plus a colour like that indicates something is out of the ordinary, and the new promoter is really just the new ordinary. I think just a note on Cassandro's reign to state it's the first of the newly NWA-held lineage would suffice.
The La Sombra caption could do with the year he won to give a little more context. Try "La Sombra, who in 2007 became the first CMLL wrestler to hold the championship since 1996"

Fixed

Wholly optional, but there's a picture of La Sombra and Mephisto mid-match here, which might be useful. It's from 2011 so it's definitely not their title fight, however, but it's rare to get an image of two people together who did wrestle in a specific context.

Good choice, gets both the 55th and 56th champion in the picture.

I cleaned up a few errors here and there, would you double check I haven't introduced anything incorrectly?

Thank you, that all looks good

All in all, seems solid, accessible and complete (in as far as an ongoing list can be). GRAPPLE X 11:25, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Grapple X: - Thanks for the fast feedback. The only one I am not sure of is the coloring of the NWA Mexico reigns - they are used to indicate who promoted the championship at the time. I get that NWA Mexico is the "new normal" now, but then I say that all CMLL reigns should be colored to indicate the difference. I use the colors to indicate when it is not promoted by the original company. If there is a general consensus that this should be changed I am okay with that. Side note, while this is an active championship the list is much more static than say a WWE championship list, the championships normally do not change hands as often in Mexico - with reigns often lasting over a year. I believe I correctly addressed all the concerns? MPJ-US 16:32, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, thought I had already come back to this. I'm happy enough to support this based on its current state. GRAPPLE ^X 08:11, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from WillC

Lead
- Box looks fine.--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- "The Championship was inactive until just over a year later when the championship was used by Toryumon, making Dragon Kid became the first Toryumon-promoted champion it." to "The Championship was inactive until over a year later when Dragon Kid was made the first Toryumon-promoted champion."--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - Done, good suggestion.
- "On June 22, 2011 Cassandro" - needs a comma.--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - Done
- "Karloff Lagarde and Américo Rocca" - infobox gives the latter two names--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - Good catch.
- Infobox says Great Sasuke has a one day reign as well--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - I am not sure why Sasuke was in the info box, removed and back to two.
Title history
- Sorting checks out--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- I commend you on showing when it was in which promotion and part of the J-Crown. Good idea.--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- There isn't an indication next to the current champion to show the reign is changing daily. Possibly use the cross symbol.--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - Done and "+" symbol added to the legend at the top.
- There is a link to vacant in the terms article on english pedia now.--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - There is? Vacant and Vacated went to something not relevant to championships?
    - Glossary_of_professional_wrestling_terms#V--WillC 14:51, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Reigns by combined length
- Sorting checks out--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- May not want to use addition symbol twice in the article, may confuse readers.--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - To indicate days passed? I thought that was standard and it's the same symbol for the same thing isn't it?
    - I wasn't paying close attention. It looked like the symbol for NWA Mexico was an addition sign but I see the difference now. Ignore this.--WillC 14:51, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Footnotes
- Coding works fine, they make sense.--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Source for note 3 please.--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - Sourced Mephisto's weight and threw in the ref from his title win in the table after the note. Cannot put a citation inside the note, I tried but this should work?
References
- Should make a external links section with the nwa website. Why isn't this included in the NWA template?--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - I took some relevant external links off the NWA Article.
  - They were not in the NWA template because I did not pay attention to non-CMLL title articles. Listed now.
- Sources check out as reliable.--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Wrestlinglover: - Thank you for all the input, every little thing helps. I hope I have addressed all your concerns? MPJ-US 04:28, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    - @MPJ-DK: I didn't want it to fail due to lack of reviews, figured I'd help out.--WillC 14:51, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I must have forgot. Support --WillC 17:23, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, as this nomination has been open for 2 months without receiving sufficient attention, I'm going to have to close it as not passed, in order to keep FLC from getting bogged down. Feel free to renominate in the future, and remember that the best way to get other people to review your nominations is to review theirs first. --Pres N 15:58, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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