Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Matchbox Twenty discography/archive1

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The list was promoted by Giants2008 21:09, 28 December 2012 [1].

Matchbox Twenty discography

Featured list candidates/Matchbox Twenty discography/archive1

Nominator(s): Holiday56 (talk) 09:53, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because having done much work on the article, I feel it may be ready to be promoted to featured list status. Holiday56 (talk) 09:53, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from TBrandley (talk) 15:13, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"The discography of American rock band" missing "the"
- "The" isn't actually needed. Here's an example of a featured list that doesn't use it. Holiday56 (talk) 09:14, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
For consistency, remove the hypten on "number-one", and its not needed anyway
- Since "number-one" is used as a compound modifier in the sentence, the hyphen is needed (MOS:HYPHEN). Holiday56 (talk) 09:14, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

TBr and ley 01:25, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support TBr and ley 15:13, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Crisco 1492 (talk)

*I gave a copyedit and don't have any prose comments. However, I noticed a couple things

The lede completely ignores the extended plays and music videos. Did they have any videos which are worthy of note? Chrisye, for example, had one which was the first Indonesian song to be shown on MTV Southeast Asia and one which raised controversy for its costume choices.
- Added mentions of the extended plays. The band doesn't have any particularly noteworthy videos. Holiday56 (talk) 08:59, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Hmm... now this is contrasting with the five-year hiatus. 2004 + 5=2009, not 2007. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:04, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Fixed. Holiday56 (talk) 09:52, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      - Perhaps just avoid stating the (number)-year at all? I.e. "after a hiatus" — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:58, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        Okay. Done. Holiday56 (talk) 11:52, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I strongly suggest archiving these pages you've used as a reference. You never know when websites will move pages or become unavailable. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:54, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The sites used as references (Billboard, AllMusic) are very much active, and have been used by a vast majority of the music-related articles on the site; I personally can't see these pages disappearing any time soon. I may go through an archival process in the future, but I personally don't think it's particularly necessary as of now. Holiday56 (talk) 08:59, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support on prose and images. Looks solid. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:49, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Source comment – Can we get a page number for the book used as part of reference 3? That would make it more verifiable than it is now. Giants2008 (Talk) 18:13, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- No page number information available, apparently. The book doesn't appear to be numbered, as seen in this preview of the book. Holiday56 (talk) 11:12, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 10:04, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"such as" followed by "such as" in quick succession.
- Done. Holiday56 (talk) 09:58, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Link "certified" appropriately.
- Done. Holiday56 (talk) 09:58, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"the band released their second" -> new para so "Matchbox Twenty released..."
- Done. Holiday56 (talk) 09:58, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"[8][6][3][4] " would prefer these in numerical order.
- Done. Holiday56 (talk) 09:58, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Never keen on CS being an abbreviation for just "Cassette"...
- Done. Holiday56 (talk) 09:58, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I can't see any video charts on the Billboard page.
- The video albums are sourced in reference 9. Holiday56 (talk) 09:58, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Since Overjoyed charted, shouldn't it have an article?
- Done. Holiday56 (talk) 09:58, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Similarly for other charted works.
- Redlinked several charted releases. Holiday56 (talk) 09:58, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 08:51, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 16:53, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments – overall a well done discography.

Dangling modifier: "As it was not released for commercial sale, American chart provider Billboard deemed "Push" ineligible to appear on its main Hot 100 singles chart." Should be written with "Push" directly after the comma, so like "As it was not released for commercial sale, "Push" was deemed ineligible by American chart provider Billboard to appear on its main Hot 100 singles chart."
- Done. Holiday56 (talk) 12:55, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hyphenate: "top ten hit" – add a hyphen in "top ten" because it is a compound adjective.
- Done. Holiday56 (talk) 12:55, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hyphenate: Same with "twelve times" here: "...and was certified twelve times platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA)."
- Done. Holiday56 (talk) 12:55, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
POV: "Mad Season spawned three more singles, two of which were moderately successful..." – how do you define "moderately successful"?
- Removed. Holiday56 (talk) 12:55, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Redundancy: "More Than You Think You Are, the band's third studio album, was released in November 2002 and it peaked at number six on the Billboard 200"
- Done. Holiday56 (talk) 12:55, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Unsupported by citation: "...and was a major factor in More Than You Think You Are's long-lasting chart presence."
- Removed. Holiday56 (talk) 12:58, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"The extended play EP was released in November 2003, peaking at number 43 on the Billboard 200; the video album Show: A Night in the Life of Matchbox Twenty was released in May 2004, topping the Billboard Top Video Albums chart." – these two do not seem to be related, so the semi-colon is weak here.
- Done. Holiday56 (talk) 12:55, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Needs citation: "Following a hiatus to allow lead singer Rob Thomas to focus on his solo career, Matchbox Twenty reunited to record six new songs for a compilation album."
- Done. Holiday56 (talk) 12:55, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Redundancy and hyphenate: "...it also became a top ten hit in Australia and Canada." – remove "also" and hyphenate "top ten".
- Done. Holiday56 (talk) 12:55, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hyphenate: "became a top 40 hit in Australia." – hyphenate "top 40".
- Done. Holiday56 (talk) 12:55, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:NUMERAL, comparable quantities should be written consistently as figures or should be spelled out. In other words, all chart tiers should be consistently formatted (top ten vs. top 40) and all chart positions should be consistently formatted (number one vs. number 40).
- In the past I've been told to spell out numbers from one to ten and leave all other numbers in numeral form. Holiday56 (talk) 12:55, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yes, that's the rule of thumb, which I've folowed too. However, this is one of a few exceptions to that rule. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 13:11, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Okay. Done. Holiday56 (talk) 15:49, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Even if it isn't used as a source, an external link to Discogs is a bit concerning due to its quality and wiki-like workings.
- There's a fine line between external link and source, as discussed in the deletion review for the template. Similar to IMDB links appearing in film articles, Discogs links can appear on discography articles. Holiday56 (talk) 12:55, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

—WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 11:29, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support – this list now meets the criteria and is the result of a fine job. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 16:53, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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