Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Manchester City F.C. seasons/archive1
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- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page. No further edits should be made to this page. The closing editor's comments were: 11 days, 1 support, 1 oppose. Fail. Juhachi 05:53, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Self-nom. Format based upon a combination of Arsenal F.C. seasons and the featured Frölunda HC seasons. Comprehensive and referenced. Oldelpaso 15:18, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments The redlinked top scorers should be unlinked, as should the multiple wikilinks in that column. The abbreviations used in the "Division" column should be explained in the lead, and hence not wikilinked. Also, when they made the FA Cup final, link to relevant article (e.g. FA Cup Final 1969). Finally, state when Ardick got re-named Manchester City. These are minor issues, and I'll support once these have been dealt with. Tompw (talk) (review) 16:53, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I've implemented all your suggestions, with the exception of delinking the redlinked top scorers as I'm gradually creating articles for those I have sufficient information about; the remainder are few in number. Oldelpaso 14:43, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments I am going to respectively disagree with Tompw here:
- No, you must keep the redlinked scorers, and where possible create articles for them. Lists are not categories, the advantage they have is that we can see where Wikipedia is lacking in certain articles and create them.
- All the names in the top scorers column should be wiklinked, whether they are repeated or not; for starters it means the lines are consistent. Unlike in prose, many people do not read every line from the top but are most likely to be skimming through to particular line they are after. If I was e.g. looking for City's top scorer in 1935-36, I would find out it was Eric Brook, but then I have to then search up the list to find the appropriate wikilink to the article about him, which is not very user-friendly.
- Full Members Cup should be unabbreviated, it is unusual to see it referred to as the FMC.
- Otherwise this is pretty good. The repeated wikilinks thing needs to be resolved here by consensus first, before I can give my approval. Qwghlm 13:11, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I've unpiped Full Members Cup, and created half a dozen or so more articles for previously redlinked players. The few remaining ones are the hardest to source but I should have enough to do a half-decent stub for two or three more during the course of this FLC. Could do with a couple more opinions over whether or not to link top scorers for all seasons. Oldelpaso 21:41, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments I think yo should link season articles when they exist (e.g. Premier League 2006-07 and so on.) also, link Football League Cup Final 1976, since that'll becreated eventually. Circeus 13:42, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose In the discussion for promoting Chicago Bears seasons and Cleveland Browns seasons the reviewers decided that the list had to meet to criteria "A useful list must be composed of a large majority of links to existing articles (blue links). The list brings together a group of existing articles related by well-defined entry criteria." There it was required that since it was a list of seasons it should included links to articles about the seasons. This list does not inlcude links to articles about Man City's seasons. It does include links to English football seasons, but this is not a list of English football seasons. Timpcrk87 20:17, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm not sure what to make of this in the case of Soccer/Football. NFL fans started the trend of creating individual team season articles, but it doesn't look like it's been taken up for sports outside the U.S. much. Even the Cricket projects have only created a handful, and none have been at all for Soccer/Football. I would still require that all division seasons are filled, though, since it was the case for Arsenal F.C. (and we should nominate Frölunda for de-featuring too). Circeus 00:36, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The standard was not my idea (frankly, I don't like it) but it is the standard and has been discussed in great length HERE and especially HERE. After that much debate and effort to make such a standard, it should most definitely be enforced consistently for all candidates. I agree that we should nominate Frölunda HC seasons for delisting on this same criteria. Timpcrk87 00:04, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm not sure what to make of this in the case of Soccer/Football. NFL fans started the trend of creating individual team season articles, but it doesn't look like it's been taken up for sports outside the U.S. much. Even the Cricket projects have only created a handful, and none have been at all for Soccer/Football. I would still require that all division seasons are filled, though, since it was the case for Arsenal F.C. (and we should nominate Frölunda for de-featuring too). Circeus 00:36, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Looks great. If this can become a FL I think many more F.C seasons articles will follow. Buc 21:08, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]