Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of posthumous number-one singles (UK)/archive1

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The list was promoted by Giants2008 21:04, 16 September 2011 [1].

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List of posthumous number-one singles (UK)

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Nominator(s): ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:36, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because I think it's ready........... ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:36, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Resolved comments from A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 11:23, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Comments – How set are you on that particular title? At the moment I think it's a little ambiguous, as it doesn't specify of which UK chart these songs were number one, i.e. are they number-one singles of the UK Official Download Chart, or the UK Dance Chart, or the UK Indie Chart, etc. Personally, I reckon something like "List of posthumous number ones on the UK Singles Chart" might be a little bit clearer (although admittedly that is more of a mouthful). Not fussed either way, but note that all our other UK number one lists use this format e.g. List of number-one singles from the 1950s (UK)..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:38, 22 August 2011 (UTC) Personally, I'd like to change the titles of all our number-one UK singles lists, although that's probably not a discussion for here and more for WP:WikiProject Record Charts - I'll bring it up there. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 14:29, 23 August 2011 (UTC) As of today, there have been 1170 UK Single Chart number ones, so would it be more precise to say "nearly 1,200" rather than "over 1,000"? Done -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:38, 22 August 2011 (UTC) Are there any online sources that could be used to cite the dates of reaching number one and the number of weeks at number one? I know that it might be a bit of a citation overkill, but I just think that it'd be good for the reader if they could verify the information using sources available online. Maybe they could be put in a separate "References" column or something, just to avoid any clutter. Done for all bar one. For some reason, the OCC's archive of "all" the number ones only starts in 1960, so does not cover the first entry on the list...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:04, 23 August 2011 (UTC) Yeah, it's pretty inexplicable as to why the OCC's current website doesn't list the number ones for the fifties. However, a previous version of their site did, which can now be accessed through the Wayback Machine: http://web.archive.org/web/20090308020427/http://www.theofficialcharts.com/all_the_no1_songs.php You could cite the date of reaching number one and the number of weeks at the top for that Buddy Holly track using this webpage. Also, I think the refs in the sixth column should be centre aligned. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 14:29, 23 August 2011 (UTC) Done -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:36, 24 August 2011 (UTC) Should the comma in the caption of the photo for Elvis really be a semicolon? A comma seems right to me, personally.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:38, 22 August 2011 (UTC) "Jailhouse Rock" is a dab link. Fixed -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:38, 22 August 2011 (UTC) I think the normal convention is for titles of double A-sides to be separated by spaces, i.e. "One Night"/"I Got Stung" -> "One Night" / "I Got Stung" Done -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:38, 22 August 2011 (UTC) The ISBN for MTV Pop and Rock World Records doesn't appear to be valid. Corrected, and for good measure I have changed it to the 13-digit version as per the below -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:41, 23 August 2011 (UTC) British Hit Singles & Albums is being referenced a lot, so it might be worth putting it in the General references section and then using the Sfn template to cite to specific pages. 'Done -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:50, 25 August 2011 (UTC) WP:ISBN suggests using the 13-digit ISBN if available, which, for British Hit Singles & Albums would be 978-1-90-499400-8. Done -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:38, 22 August 2011 (UTC) BBC -> BBC News? Done -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:09, 23 August 2011 (UTC) A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 22:31, 21 August 2011 (UTC) Many thanks for your comments, some addressed thus far, will get to the rest soon....... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:38, 22 August 2011 (UTC) "to date" -> "as of 2011" Alan Jones should perhaps be cited in the Music Week ref. I don't think either Allmusic nor MSN Music need to be italicised. Also, what's the rule regarding the phrase "number 1"? WP:ORDINAL suggests that numbers below ten should be written out as words, meaning that it should perhaps really be "number one", but I'm not sure whether or not record charts are an exception to this. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 11:23, 12 September 2011 (UTC) All done. Some of those I thought I'd already done, but I must have forgotten to save or something..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:48, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Resolved comments from –Drilnoth (T/C) 12:51, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

*Comments: (feel free to intersperse responses) –Drilnoth (T/C) 22:48, 22 August 2011 (UTC) "The Notorious B.I.G." should be sorted under "N". –Drilnoth (T/C) 22:48, 22 August 2011 (UTC) Done -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:38, 23 August 2011 (UTC) Images need alt text. –Drilnoth (T/C) 22:48, 22 August 2011 (UTC) I didn't realise alt text was a requirement once again. Nonetheless.....done -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:38, 23 August 2011 (UTC) Eh, I misworded that. They should have alt text, and especially in featured content it is very important. –Drilnoth (T/C) 12:51, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

• Comment – Just one from me: a comma is needed after George Harrison in the lead. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 00:53, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
  • Done -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:38, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
• Comment Someone has submitted this this to AfD[2]. Regardless of the merits of the submission, which I think are very few, it would be good to establish the notibility of music sales increasing after death. Something like this, I suggest. Thincat (talk) 21:57, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
  • I have added a bit about this..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:32, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Comment I'd like to see the AFD done and dusted, then I'll be back with comments. Chris, if I forget, please please ping me. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:37, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Just to say I'll now be off Wiki till Wednesday, I'll catch up with any comments made in the meantime then....... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:59, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

• AFD result: The AFD has closed as keep. –Drilnoth (T/C) 14:49, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 19:36, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Comments now sense has prevailed, I'll comment. "John Lennon scored three..." ouch, this is a UK chart, BritEng and all that. I'm not keen at all on that colloquialism...! Fixed -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:23, 30 August 2011 (UTC) Could you add "singles" and link it in the first sentence? Done -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:23, 30 August 2011 (UTC) Not overly keen on all the stuff in parentheses in the opening part of the lead. Would prefer these to be notes so it doesn't smash the structure of that sentence up and then you could have "and was based" instead of " the chart was based "... Done - not sure the OCC's former names were really necessary anyway..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:29, 30 August 2011 (UTC) On this one occasion and this one occasion only, I think I'm okay with you abbreviating NME without ever using it because a lot of people may not know NME means New Musical Express. One point to Chris...! Ta ;-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:23, 30 August 2011 (UTC) Is there going to be an album version of this? Who knows.......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:23, 30 August 2011 (UTC) the "King of Rock'n Roll", sorry to be a pain but this "direct quote" is it backed up by the paper source? Haven't got it to hand, added another ref just in case..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:23, 30 August 2011 (UTC) Applicable notes referenced? Have added a note to the first one, the others are covered by the refs against the relevant hits..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:26, 30 August 2011 (UTC) Otherwise very nice. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:54, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

• Support from AFD to FL (hopefully) in hours. Awesomeness. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:36, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
• Support That's all my concerns resolved, thanks a lot. Although why has the header of the first section been changed to a rather uninformative "List"? Personally, I think something more descriptive like, say, "Number ones" would work better. Anyway, nice going! A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 16:51, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Someone else made that change. I've amended it -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:01, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
• Support, read through it a couple times and saw no issues. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 03:17, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

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