Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of municipalities in New Mexico/archive1

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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:32, 30 May 2018 (UTC) [1].

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List of municipalities in New Mexico

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Nominator(s): Mattximus (talk) 21:52, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

I am continuing my attempt at standardizing all list of municipalities in North America. Thanks to the reviews of many wikipedians, this will be the 18th such nomination after 17 successful runs (such as: Montana, Alabama) and I believe this article is a complete and comprehensive list of all municipalities in New Mexico.

I have modeled this list off of recently promoted lists so it should be of the same high standard. I've incorporated suggestions from past reviews to make this nomination go as smoothly as possible. I hope I caught them all. The lead made need some tightening up, but nothing that can't be done in the nomination process. Please let me know if there is anything else that can be added to perfect this list. Thanks again for your input. Mattximus (talk) 21:52, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 22:25, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Comments "of land.[1] " of land is unnecessary given the preceding sentence elements.  Done "County (ies)" I've never seen a space added in there.  Done Anthony has blank cells, I'd prefer to see en-dashes in there as while the note makes it clear why, it more looks like something's been forgotten at a first glance. Done Same for Kirtland, and the others with blank cells. Perhaps even consider the use of {{n/a}} as "not available" is simply correct. Ref 7, spaced hyphen should be a spaced en-dash. Done Consistent date formats throughout the references. Done Avoid SHOUTING in the refs (e.g. ref 10's publisher). Done Is "New Mexico Municipal League" a work or a publisher? Be consistent. Done I think I've made them all publishers. Article on Rio Communities gives date of incorporation, not just the year... You found the date? I must be blind, I still can't find it...!  Not done The lead says Prior to its incorporation on May 16, 2013.... The Rambling Man (talk) 21:28, 16 April 2018 (UTC) The Rambling Man (talk) 21:18, 15 April 2018 (UTC) Oh I see from the wikipedia page, I couldn't find a source for that however, but I added it anyway. Does that work, or better to keep year only? Mattximus (talk) 21:28, 18 April 2018 (UTC) Thank you for such a thorough review. I've made all but the last change, since I can't seem to find the date you mentioned in the page... Mattximus (talk) 23:51, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Resolved comments from A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 00:06, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Comments Looks good overall. The lead image needs alt text. Probably just "Refer to caption" would be fine for this. Done Albuquerque is wikilinked twice in the lead. Done The Population columns aren't sorting correctly. You should be able to fix this by adding |sort=on to the Change template. Done Peralta needs en dashes in its "Population (2000)" and "Change (%)" cells. Done Spaced em dashes ( — ) should be en dashes ( – ). Done No need to repeat "(pdf)" in reference 4. Done "(in English)" is not needed. Done Incidentally, I've got my own FLC: Official Classical Singles Chart. If you have the time, I welcome any comments on it. Thanks very much! A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 11:57, 18 April 2018 (UTC) Thanks A Thousand Doors for the excellent and thorough review, I've made all your changes except for the one reference issue. I will see if I have time to review your list this weekend. Thanks again! Mattximus (talk) 21:39, 18 April 2018 (UTC) Not sure that "2010 United States Census" needs to be italicised in the references. "New Mexico Municipal League" definitely doesn't need to be. This is autoformatted by the standard wikipedia template, I'm not sure how to change that... Not done Surround the words with two pairs of apostrophes (i.e. '', the same as you would if they were italicising them) and they should de-italicise. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 00:06, 20 April 2018 (UTC) Well actually, the 2010 Census could be considered to be a work in which case it should be italicised. The NMML I have already fixed. The Rambling Man (talk) 00:12, 20 April 2018 (UTC) Ah, okay, thanks. My counterargument to that would be that our article on the 2010 United States Census doesn't italicise the title. Perhaps that's a discussion more appropriate for that talk page. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 00:23, 20 April 2018 (UTC) It's nothing to do with how the work would be formatted on its own, it's just the formatting used within many reference styles to differentiate the "work" from the "publisher". For anything other than books, it doesn't necessarily match the non-reference title formatting. --PresN 19:19, 16 May 2018 (UTC) Kirtland needs to be below Jemez Springs when the list loads. Done Similarly, San Ysidro needs to be below San Jon. Done Not a FL criterion, but it might be worth considering adding archive-urls to any weblinks to prevent WP:LINKROT. This is a great idea, do you know a fast way to do this? I have almost 20 featured lists and this would be a great modification to all of them. Mattximus (talk) 12:51, 21 April 2018 (UTC) Go to each list's "history" page and click on "Fix dead links", then (after you may be asked to log in to use the script), click the checkbox marked "Add archives to all non-dead references (Optional)" and then hit "Analyze". Job done. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:06, 21 April 2018 (UTC) A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 00:06, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

• The population columns sort alphabetically rather than numerically; might be because some rows have dashes instead of numbers. Each article for those three places has a value for population, so something really should be included with a note.

•  Done I couldn't make the dashes sort despite by best efforts (apparently the template sort dash does not work), so I've made it standard with the other lists with a note on each municipality that has a blank space.

• You should be able to make the columns sortable by adding |sort=on to each use of the Change template – you'd then be able to put the en dashes back in (which, personally, I think look better than the blank cells). A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 11:15, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

• I'd also love to see a map in the style this one that actually depicts cites and towns in these article, or at least one with major cities labeled. Surely there's something from a free government source that's better than the useless national state maps.

• Me too! Please let me know if you find one. I managed to find one for most states but could not find one for New Mexico.

• The forms of government should use a dash, not a hyphen. Reywas92^Talk 02:12, 23 April 2018 (UTC)  Done

Thanks for the review Reywas92! All comments addressed. Mattximus (talk) 22:30, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Support; though here's a possible map to include that has cities: File:National atlas new mexico cropped.png. Reywas92^Talk 19:26, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

• Support - couldn't really find anything else beyond the above. @Reywas92 and A Thousand Doors: you reviewed this nomination a while back; are you satisfied with the responses/prepared to support/oppose? --PresN 19:19, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

• "Mayor‐Council system can be upgraded to a commission/manager municipality by vote if the population exceeds 3,000" Two problems, vote of the council or the population, and second, why are we calling this an "upgrade"? That's all I'm seeing. Courcelles (talk) 17:47, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

• Fixed both, good catches. Thanks Courcelles! Mattximus (talk) 23:03, 24 May 2018 (UTC)'

• Support. Courcelles (talk) 13:18, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Comments by Dudley

• "funding of fire protection and transit" What does transit mean? Is it USAmer for what is called public transport in the UK or maybe for road maintenance?  Done
• "office of manager with identical powers to the manager in a commission/manager municipality" There does not seem any point in saying powers are identical when you have not said what their powers are in a commission/manager municipality.  Done
• "A manager in both cases is not-elected and administers the hiring/firing of municipal employees" The hyphen is not grammatical. (I would put this explanation higher up before the identical powers comment.) Done

• Yes your way is much more logical, rearranged and reworded accordingly.

• You might take the census figures for the city of Anthony as the city website says that it is the same as the municipality. Done

• Great catch, I added the figures, but kept a note saying that the totals are for incorporated places only.

• Looks fine. Dudley Miles (talk) 21:02, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

• Thanks Dudley Miles for the excellent catches, I believe I have made them all. Mattximus (talk) 23:00, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

• Support. Dudley Miles (talk) 08:50, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Source Review passed, promoting. --PresN 02:03, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

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