Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of members of the Swiss Federal Council

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The list was promoted 04:22, 23 February 2008.

List of members of the Swiss Federal Council

Self-nomination. Going through the required attributes of a FL, I think there is not much doubt that point 1 and 3 are well-covered; for point 1c (accuracy), let me just mention that while compiling this list from the indicated sources, we managed to point out a mistake present in the official list of members Swiss Federal Council managed by the Swiss Government ! It has been corrected since, with much congratulations and praise for Wikipedia from the person in charge. I think the style, according to point 2, is also at a featured list level, but it can always be improved, so I'm ready to address any comment that could improve this page ! (just for information, there is also a sister list, List of members of the Swiss Federal Council by date, that will probably be proposed as a FL in the near future too, depending on the feedback on the present candidate, and a few more modifications that remain to be done) Schutz (talk) 12:12, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One detail I forgot: I saw in the comments for other articles that some people prefer leads that are not too short. In this list, the lead was shortened a bit just a few hours ago; if you think that the current lead is too short, please have a look at a previous revision, to see if it suits you better. Schutz (talk) 12:32, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved stuff from The Rambling Man (talk) 16:29, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - firstly I do like the previous lead more than this one - it provides a better introduction to the purpose of the council and the mechanisms of election, so consider replacing some or all of it... Other things I noticed:
Done. Schutz (talk) 21:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Title of the section "List of members of the Swiss Federal Council in order of election" could lose "in order of election". The list is sortable so that may not be true, and to be honest, it's not really necessary to specify the ordering in any case.
  Done. Schutz (talk) 21:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- What is the sequence column all about? It stops pretty soon down the table and isn't really explained.
  Done. This was added just after the article got listed here; it is now complete, with a footnote to explain what it means. Schutz (talk) 21:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Remove spaces in front of citations, the citations should preferably be placed after punctuation.
  Done. Schutz (talk) 21:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- You've colour coded parties and added the party in each row. Are both necessary?
  This was a feature; colours for quick recognition, and party for direct linking, to allow sorting and to prevent the need to go back to the key. I think both are useful. Schutz (talk) 21:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I think "reelected" should be hyphenated.
  Done. So does my dictionary. Schutz (talk) 21:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Where are the notes referenced? For example, the suicide in office really ought to be cited.
  Done. All are referenced now, except for the ones that died in office (for them, last day in office=date of death, and it is easy to check). Schutz (talk) 21:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't think the department headed column should be sortable, it's not particularly useful if the department you're looking for is second in the text.
  Done. Schutz (talk) 21:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Canton abbreviations need explanation (e.g. a key).
  Done, in the form of a footnote and a link (there are >20 cantons, that would make a large key). Schutz (talk) 21:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- For councillors elected in place of those declining, add a note in the table.
  Done. Schutz (talk) 21:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Presumably bold dates mean those councillors are still in the Council? Add it to the key.
  Done. Schutz (talk) 21:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Seems unfortunate that only three members don't have articles, and those are all in the same table. Consider a stub for each of these, surely notable politicians.
  Done. Schutz (talk) 21:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That's about it for the moment. I hope these help, feel free to get in touch with me. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This helps a lot, many thanks ! Please tell us if you have any other comment, or if you think one of your suggestions could be implemented in a better way. Schutz (talk) 21:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Further comment
- I don't like "only twice in living memory." in the lead - it's a little woolly - should be quantified in my opinion.
  Done. Schutz (talk) 13:19, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Is it possible to reference the claims in the last paragraph of the lead?
  Done. I've added a reference (the Historical Dictionary of Switzerland talks about this topic); ideally, I'd like to add a ref to the Church book (with the advantage that it is in English), but I had it through an inter-library loan and had to send it back already. Schutz (talk) 13:19, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Almost there I think. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:35, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I think that the first section should be renamed along with the second section. My suggestions are: "List', "members", or "list of members". "List of members of the Swiss Federal Council" is just too long for a section and I find it redundant to have a section named after its page.--Crzy cheetah 05:16, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Yes, good point. Schutz (talk) 07:09, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - much improved, I've tucked my comments away. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:29, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support, if I may (I've contributed a little to the final cleanup of this list). A very well-made, informative and accessible list that helps readers understand Switzerland's idiosyncratic system of government. Sandstein (talk) 18:31, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, although I can't pretend that it caused me to understand Switzerland's idiosyncratic system of government. --Orlady (talk) 04:14, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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