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- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was archived by SchroCat 15:47, 22 October 2014 [1].
List of colleges and universities in Massachusetts (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): Kevin Rutherford (talk) 04:23, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because I have finally expanded it to mirror other featured lists on Wikipedia in a similar category. I am going to finish off the intro within the day as well as adding a description on what the acronyms mean. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 04:23, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I know that MA's university-level education is among the top in the US, possibly only behind CA's. Can't you find some discussion on that? Also, if I am not wrong, the enrolled-per-capita is also among the highest. I was surprised to see that the intro discusses almost all category types, except the most prestigious one - the research universities. You should fix that. Also wasn't there some top100 or so universities which featured several of MA's? I can't take very seriously a list which doesn't even mention MIT in the intro. Nergaal (talk) 15:05, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- You're going to have to search for those for me, as I have never heard of any of that information before and I haven't been able to find it anywhere. I have also copied the intro style from the D.C. list, which is a Featured article in its own right, and I don't want to make this a long intro in the name of listing most groups. Besides, there are only four research universities, all of which except for MIT are already mentioned in the intro. In terms of the US News and World Report, I am not comfortable adding in something like that, since there are many different ratings that go on with colleges, and many of them place these same colleges all over the place. One example of this is where they place Princeton in the top, whereas Washington Monthly places it at 27th. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 19:31, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Let me try to repeat what I said: MIT is ranged among top 5 in the world by essentially any ranking (see Academic Ranking of World Universities) so not even mentioning this entry, and not mentioning that Harvard is either 1 or 2, is quite a humongous oversight for an intro that is intended for featured status. There is a ton of trivia in the lead that is much less interesting or relevant than this. Nergaal (talk) 12:25, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay, I have added it under the fact that it was once a state university before it went private. If anyone else rejects to the lack of rankings there, then I'll go ahead and add them, but I would like to see the opinions of others before I go ahead and add in rankings. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 02:13, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Let me try to repeat what I said: MIT is ranged among top 5 in the world by essentially any ranking (see Academic Ranking of World Universities) so not even mentioning this entry, and not mentioning that Harvard is either 1 or 2, is quite a humongous oversight for an intro that is intended for featured status. There is a ton of trivia in the lead that is much less interesting or relevant than this. Nergaal (talk) 12:25, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- You're going to have to search for those for me, as I have never heard of any of that information before and I haven't been able to find it anywhere. I have also copied the intro style from the D.C. list, which is a Featured article in its own right, and I don't want to make this a long intro in the name of listing most groups. Besides, there are only four research universities, all of which except for MIT are already mentioned in the intro. In terms of the US News and World Report, I am not comfortable adding in something like that, since there are many different ratings that go on with colleges, and many of them place these same colleges all over the place. One example of this is where they place Princeton in the top, whereas Washington Monthly places it at 27th. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 19:31, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- Hmm, looks very similar to another one of these lists that I reviewed. That's a good thing!
- In the table, Wheelock College is the only row that has the type as just Master's, instead of Master's university
- The Defunct university lead... just kind of trails off in the middle of a sentence
- The "closed" column in Defunct universities for Andover Junior College sorts wrong- it's sorting under "c", not "1979".
- The control column in Defunct universities for Southern New England School of Law is off-center
- Actually, why is the rest of this column centered? The control column in the first table isn't
- Why does the founded column in Defunct universities for Vesper George School of Art say unknown, instead of —?
- If List of defunct colleges and universities in Massachusetts exists, why is it not under a {{main}} tag in the defunct section, why are you duplicating that list here, and why don't these two tables match? Personally, I'd merge the two lists (aka redirect that one to here).
- Both "For-profit" and "Private" are redirecting in your tables, and neither is pointing to an article about for-profit/private universities.
- Simmons, Springfield, and Regis College, as well as Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, are redirecting to alternate spellings/disambig markers.
- Your tables have col scopes, but not row scopes.
- I agree with Nergaal- it's odd that you mention that Harvard and MIT are the largest schools, but not that they are highly ranked internationally.
- The publisher for ref 127 should be Westminster College, not Ray Brown
- Although certainly not required, if this review was helpful, consider reviewing List of Sega video game consoles further up on the FLC page.
- --PresN 22:08, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing note: This candidate has been archived, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. – SchroCat (talk) 15:55, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.