Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of UEFA Intertoto Cup winning managers
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was promoted 15:49, 14 April 2008.
Well, what can I say? I made a botched attempt at a featured topic of UEFA tournament winning managers and User:Struway2 correctly pointed out I'd missed the Intertoto Cup. So here, with considerable help in sourcing references from Struway2, it is. For those who have seen the other lists, including the List of UEFA club tournament winning managers, rest assured I shall be going back there to fill in the relevant statistics for these managers before attempting to head back to WP:FTC. As ever, thank you in advance for your time, energy, comments, criticism and perhaps support! All the best, The Rambling Man (talk) 10:36, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- "...competition, held during the summer, for the leading European..." It seems like there is a serial comma, which is too American for this article.
- Fixed. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Should 2006 be linked to UEFA Intertoto Cup 2006? Same for 1995 and 2009?
- Linked, beside 2009 which won't exist yet and, if it did, would be deleted! The Rambling Man (talk) 17:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "with FC Schalke 04 of his native Germany" sounds slightly odd
- Reworded to stick to the bare facts. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- If you're going for FT, including either a template which links them all, or putting them all in "See also" is necessary.
- That'll happen when I worry about the FTC. For the meantime, consider this in isolation! The Rambling Man (talk) 17:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That's it! -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 17:46, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Cheers Matthew! The Rambling Man (talk) 17:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Concerns addressed. Meets criteria. Another good list. -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 20:19, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- I would suggest to just put each year in once and then adjust the row height across all the appropriate entries. Though I do see the con that it would make that column unsortable. Peanut4 (talk) 22:42, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Doing that makes the sortable bit of the table malfunction, not just for that column but the whole table. I'm going to leave it so the whole table is sortable. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:43, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- No worries. I wondered if it would. My only suggestion would be to unsort that column or would that still leave the malfunction? I'll get back to you with anything else, but I couldn't see anything on first glance. Peanut4 (talk) 12:46, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, I'm no expert in wiki markup but I've yet to find a way to use
rowspan
and not mess the whole table's sortability up... Is the rest of the list up to spec? The Rambling Man (talk) 12:57, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, I'm no expert in wiki markup but I've yet to find a way to use
- No worries. I wondered if it would. My only suggestion would be to unsort that column or would that still leave the malfunction? I'll get back to you with anything else, but I couldn't see anything on first glance. Peanut4 (talk) 12:46, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Doing that makes the sortable bit of the table malfunction, not just for that column but the whole table. I'm going to leave it so the whole table is sortable. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:43, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Two points on re-evaluation
- I have Denmark down as one win, and Germany down as seven.
- Hmm, maths lets me down once more. Good spot, fixed. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:15, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I suggest putting references for the fact three managers used to win it. And another reference for one going to the manager whose team reaches the furthest in the UEFA Cup. I certainly never knew about the latter bit - everyday's a schoo day, eh?
- Done, linked the official UEFA regulations into the article. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:15, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I have Denmark down as one win, and Germany down as seven.
- Otherwise good work. Peanut4 (talk) 13:02, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks. Let me know if there's anything else I can do. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:15, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Can't see any reason not to support. Good work. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:45, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Excellent work, as ever ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:40, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Despite the distasteful nature of this competition. --Dweller (talk) 15:59, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- The first para says "for the leading European clubs that have failed to qualify for either the UEFA Champions League or the UEFA Cup". In contradiction, the second para says "The first tournament provided two winners, both of whom qualified for the UEFA Cup". Perhaps it should say somewhere that winning the Intertoto Cup qualifies a team for the UEFA Cup?
- Explained The Rambling Man (talk) 18:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I hope you considered WP:VUE when sourcing this article.
- I hope you did too! Of course, due to the relative obscurity of a number of these managers, foreign language sources have been used. As yet, no-one has challenged them. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- cheers, Struway2 (talk) 18:10, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Cheers back to you! The Rambling Man (talk) 18:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support I have to declare an interest as I did a fair bit of the sourcing for the managers table. The list meets FL criteria, the free-use illustrations are particularly good. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 18:31, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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