Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of UEFA European Championship winning managers/archive1
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List of UEFA European Championship winning managers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): NapHit (talk) 12:38, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
With the World Cup list gaining some support, I'm now nominating the equivalent list for the European Championships, the primary international tournament on the continent. NapHit (talk) 12:38, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
[edit]- "Since then, no manager has won the title on more than one occasion" - that kinda reads like Kachalin did win it more than once. Just say "No manager has won the title on more than one occasion"
- "Schön, along with Vicente del Bosque, are the only managers" - not grammatically correct. Should be simply "Schön and Vicente del Bosque are the only managers"
- "Joachim Löw, along with Lars Lagerbäck, holds the record" - this makes it sound like Low somehow has the primary claim to the record and Lagerback is secondary. Just say "Joachim Löw and Lars Lagerbäck jointly hold the record"
- Image caption: "Helmut Schön of Germany (left) and Vicente del Bosque of Spain (middle) are the only two managers to have won the European Championships and the FIFA World Cup" - Championships has suddenly become plural whereas it's singular everywhere else
- Also image caption: "Roberto Mancini of Italy (right), is the most recent manager to have won the tournament." - no reason for that comma
- "and all winning managers have won it with their native countries, with the exception of German coach Otto Rehhagel leading Greece to victory in 2004" - the ref against the sentence does not confirm this. Similarly it's used as a source for the whole table but does not confirm the managers' nationalities
- The source states, "Otto Rehhagel is the only coach to have won a EURO with a foreign team..." which I would consider confirming the above. I can try and find another source if it's still an issue. The source does provide the nationalities for the managers, it lists them next to the manager in the list of winning coaches. I've added another ref that confirms the teams they managed. NapHit (talk) 19:35, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Presumably Slovakia is in the "by nationality" table because of Václav Ježek? But he was born in what is now Czech Republic, not Slovakia.
- Article states he was born in Zloven and clicking through to that article it says it's in central Slovakia. I was a bit conflicted with how to represent this though. I think it's standard practice to list current countries in the by nationality table and the countries they represented at the time in the by year table. NapHit (talk) 19:35, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- That's what I got -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:40, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the comments @ChrisTheDude:, I've addressed your comments and left a few points above for two of them. NapHit (talk) 19:35, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - apologies, I misread Ježek's place of death as being his place of birth - d'oh! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:57, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, really nice Idiosincrático (talk) 12:15, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi NapHit, please find my comments below:
- Lead
José Villalonga is the youngest manager
→ correct link José Villalonga
- Winning managers table
- 2016 row → correct link to Fernando Santos (footballer, born 1954)
- References
- Ref 8 → The BBC Sport articles cites that Villalonga was the youngest manager to win the European Cup / Champions League but does not state that specifically mention that he the youngest manager win the European Championship.
- That is referenced by ref 5 that precedes ref 8. I'm using the BBC link as it confirms he managed Spain during the tournament which I'm not sure the UEFA source explicitly states. NapHit (talk) 20:12, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Refs needs archive links per WP:DEADREF and works to be linked eg The New York Times
- Images
- All images are free to use and have alt text. All good
Cheers – Ianblair23 (talk) 01:04, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the comments @Ianblair23:, I've addressed them all with the exception of the links for works as I was always under the impression whether they were linked or not was down to personal preference. Is there a specific guideline that says this needs to be done? NapHit (talk) 20:12, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Can't find anything to critique, great list.--Newtothisedit (talk) 16:15, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Source review passed, works don't have to be linked as long as you're consistent, promoting. --PresN 00:22, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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