Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of The Elder Scrolls video games/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by NapHit 06:01, 30 December 2012 [1].

List of The Elder Scrolls video games

Nominator(s): — ΛΧΣ²¹ 19:25, 15 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Elder Scrolls (abbreviated as TES) is an action role-playing open world video game series developed by Bethesda Game Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks. The Elder Scrolls games take place on the fictional world of Nirn, on the continent of Tamriel, a large landmass divided into nine provinces. The actual Elder Scrolls play a very limited role in the storyline of the series, serving only as framing plot device, and are rarely referred to in-game, or even in the in-game literature. The first game, The Elder Scrolls: Arena, was released in 1994. It was intended for players to assume the role of an arena combatant, but development shifted the game into a role-playing game (RPG), a tradition that persists throug the series' history. — ΛΧΣ²¹ 19:25, 15 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose sorry, but it is a content fork of Development history of The Elder Scrolls series. We simply don't need this list if we have such an excellent one. And again, dates are not precise. For example, in Development history of The Elder Scrolls series we see that the first game was released in March 1994. Regards.--Tomcat (7) 20:17, 15 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, Didn't know that article exists, and it is not a content fork. Cheking that article, it misses the Elder Scrolls online, several mobile games released in 2003 and 2004, all information about Skyrim's expansions (and Oblivion's expansions too) as well as other things. I will double check the dates. And I don't find the reference for March 1994, so I assume that it was original research. — ΛΧΣ²¹ 20:39, 15 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Adding a bit, 3(b) states: "...does not violate the content-forking guideline...". That guideline says: "multiple separate articles all treating the same subject" and "Articles on distinct but related topics may well contain a significant amount of information in common with one another." As far as I can see, an article about the development of a video game series may share some information with a list about all the entries in the series; although, they have distinct topics. Also, you say that "we simply don't need this list if we have such an excellent one", which is false because Development history of The Elder Scrolls series is not a list. — ΛΧΣ²¹ 12:12, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I agree with Tomcat. Six games plus expansions really is a content fork. Any information not present in The Elder Scrolls and/or Development history of The Elder Scrolls series should be quite straightforward to merge. —Andrew_stalk 07:52, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Can you please elaborate how this generic comment, "six games plus expansions really is a content fork" can be applied in any way to this list, and also, how can it be really related to the content forking guideline? I am not challenging your oppose, but the rationale you give for content forking is really misleading, useless and completely not valid. — ΛΧΣ²¹ 21:21, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting the information off here, rather than being in The Elder Scrolls makes this list redundant. Adabow (talk) 21:31, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh well, that's a better rationale. Thanks and excuse me if my first comment sounded a bit hostile, I didn't meant it to be :) — ΛΧΣ²¹ 21:46, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Initially I din't think it is a content fork, but I agree that putting the tables at the bottom of that article would be fine. Plus, even without the forking issue, the table formatting is essentially useless. If Nintendo and Sega columns are removed, then it becomes obvious that the release notes column needs splitting. Nergaal (talk) 21:01, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Putting the tables at the bottom of the development article I think it would not affect that article in any negative way. Nergaal (talk) 06:23, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't share your opinion, but that's obvious. I think this table, as well as the list, is designed to be a standalone list, and not a part of any other article. I don't see why we are discussing about a no-no merge in a featured list candidacy. — ΛΧΣ²¹ 18:21, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please go ahead and remove the Sega and Nintendo columns (which are not used therefore they are empty space)? Nergaal (talk) 22:00, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yup. Let me tweak the template code to hide the columns if unused. Gimme some time and it'll be done. — ΛΧΣ²¹ 22:07, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. It's done :) — ΛΧΣ²¹ 22:44, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

To delegates: This FLC has caused me a considerable amount of stress. I have RL issues causing me stress either. So, I withdraw this nomination. I may bring it again in the future, but not now. Regards. — ΛΧΣ²¹ 03:50, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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