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The list was promoted by Dabomb87 16:01, 21 February 2010 [1].

List of TNA Women's Knockout Champions

Nominator(s): --WillC 07:17, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Featured list candidates/List of TNA Women's Knockout Champions/archive1

I am nominating this for featured list because... I feel it fits the criteria. This is a pretty straight up nomination. All comments are appreciated and will be taken care of as quick as possible. If any reviewers have a nomination they would like a review on, present the link here and I will be sure to review it. Also, I am apart of the WikiCup.--WillC 07:21, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This is a WikiCup nomination. To the nominator: if you do not intend to submit this article at the WikiCup, feel free to remove this notice. Mm40 (talk) 12:57, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - very minor issue but is it "Slam Sports: Wrestling" or "SLAM! Sports: Wrestling" as Ref #8 is listed as "Slam Sports: Wrestling" and #1, 10, 11 and 15 is listed as "SLAM! Sports: Wrestling", plus theres a sorting issue with the Days Held column which was resolved in the last FLC which needs to be applied, other than that I have no real issues. Afro (Its More Than a Feeling) ^{- Afkatk} 21:31, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- It varies, but I usually write it as Slam does with "SLAM! Sports". All problems fixed.--WillC 00:23, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - "All title changes have occurred at TNA–promoted events thus far." - is there any need for the thus far? Afro (Its More Than a Feeling) ^{- Afkatk} 04:58, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - Not sure, removed.--WillC 05:35, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support - I see no problems with the list. Afro (Its More Than a Feeling) ^{- Afkatk} 08:23, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Truco

Comments from Truco (talk · contribs)

General

Alt text, contributors, dab links, and external links all check out fine.

Lead

The TNA Women's Knockout Championship is a professional wrestling women's world championship owned by the Total Nonstop Action Wrestling (TNA) promotion. - The 'world' issue once again. What constitutes this as a world championship?

It was once named the TNA Women's World Championship, the name it was introduced under. TNA continue to state it is a world championship in video packages, interviews, etc.

This is a WP:PW issue, because it seems more and more each year that the 'world' term is used more as a moniker than a legit classification.--Truco ₅₀₃ 18:09, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is no such thing as a classification for world championships in wrestling. They are just promotional terms. World Championship makes the company look bigger. Really, it comes down to the company saying if it is or not. In this case they say it is.

It is primarily contested for in TNA's women's division. -- primarily? where else would it be contested in?

It has been defended against men.

You should note that then.--Truco ₅₀₃ 18:09, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done--WillC 05:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It was introduced on October 14, 2007 at TNA's Bound for Glory pay-per-view (PPV) event under the name the "TNA Women's World Championship";[1] it was later renamed the TNA Women's Knockout Championship in 2008. -- remove the 'the' before "TNA Women's World Championship", the 'the' in 'under the name' suffices. Also, be consistent since you are referring to the names here, use quotation marks for both names or don't use them at all

Done--WillC 07:04, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The word "Knockout" in the championship's name, alludes to the pseudonym TNA Knockout, which TNA uses to refer to its female wrestlers. -- the word 'pseudonym' doesn't really work well here because yeah Knockout is a fictitious name, but in this case TNA Knockout is a term/title used by TNA.

Done--WillC 07:04, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure about the O.D.B and ODB spelling uses.

Not sure myself, it goes back and forth. Supposed to mean "One Dirty Bitch", but not pushed that much by TNA. Fixed for consistency.--WillC 07:04, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Link to wikitionary to wikt:Vacant?

Done--WillC 07:04, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The lead is a bit boring, add something about TNA Impact and the locations. Also, how this is the original women's title in TNA before the tag titles were made.

Not sure what to say about Impact!, the taping thing was removed since TNA keeps changing their dates. Locations is confusing. Added about it being one of two titles.--WillC 07:04, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well in lists that I worked on that had tapings like with SmackDown, it was noted how those shows were on tape delay and that the day the title was won is listed not the airing date.--Truco ₅₀₃ 18:09, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done--WillC 05:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Names

The N/A 2008 doesn't read well, just use 2008 thats the accepted way even in everyday life.

Done--WillC 07:04, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List

Ref column should be unsortable.

Done--WillC 07:04, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep in mind once this list expands, the link in the notes to tape delay may have to be linked every time due to the sorting options.

I remember, overlink says each row should be able to stand on its own, thus and exception to overlinking.--WillC 07:04, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, right now it does, I'm saying when it expands (ie. to WWE Championship length).--Truco ₅₀₃ 18:09, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I doubt it will get to that length anytime soon.--WillC 05:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See also

If you add what I said about the tag titles, then this section is not needed. If you don't, remove Knockout and the championship name because you mentioned them above.

Done--WillC 07:04, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

External links

Why is the template for TNA Knockout champions relevant?--Truco ₅₀₃ 04:40, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What? This is list of TNA women's knockout champions, of course the template about the champions would be relevant. Better question is: How is it not relevant?--WillC 07:04, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I ask because there is no link to this article on that template, that's the only reason why.--Truco ₅₀₃ 18:09, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Champions is linked to this article.--WillC 05:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Footnotes

Each reign is ranked highest to lowest; reigns with the same number mean that they are tied for that certain rank. -- meaning not mean.--Truco ₅₀₃ 18:09, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done--WillC 05:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support -- Previous issues resolved; now meets WP:WIAFL --Truco ₅₀₃ 02:37, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Giants2008 (27 and counting) 16:10, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

Remove comma after "The word 'Knockout' in the championship's name".
- Done--WillC 21:48, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"with the other being the TNA Knockout Tag Team Championship." I always dislike sentences of this structure. How about "the other is the TNA Knockout Tag Team Championship."?
- Done--WillC 21:48, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"usually air on tape delay". Should this be "aired"?
- Done--WillC 21:48, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps add a comma in the middle of "Tara is the current champion in her third reign."
- Done--WillC 21:48, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In the combined reigns table, Tara's days are sorting in the wrong order.
- Done--WillC 21:48, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Footnote: "reigns with the same number meaning that they are tied for that certain rank." "meaning" → "mean". Giants2008 (27 and counting) 21:34, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Done--WillC 21:48, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Meets FL standards. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 16:10, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 18:41, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Does the year of the rename have a ref?
- No, but I could use a PPV review from 2008.--WillC 23:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"TNA–promoted events;" - shouldn't this be a hyphen rather than an en-dash? Could you check WP:DASH?
- Hadn't noticed.--WillC 23:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And I imagine "10 knockout.." should be hyphenated.
- Done--WillC 23:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I still believe that we don't need to wiktionary link "vacany".
- Well vacancy in wrestling results do to different reasons, plus had been the standard for sometime now.
"Used for vacated reigns..." has no period while "Indicates the current..." does. What's the difference?
- I didn't notice there was one. What I get from copy and pasting the same table over and over.--WillC 23:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How does Event sort? I get V, N, L, six T's, H, G, F, B when sorting in reverse - is this correct? What's the logic?
- TNA Impact! sorts by Impact! since that is its usual name. Could change it to sort by TNA if wished?--WillC 23:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Notes with no notes could use an em-dash or en-dash in the empty cells.
- I would feel that would be strange looking.--WillC 23:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Will the list be updated in 17 days time to ensure Tara's combined reign record moves from 6th to 5th? The days will update automatically but the position in the table won't...
- Yes of course, I usually check the lists I've expanded to FL to see if they are up to date regularly. One may slip through the cracks every once in a while, but the TNA Titles usually are updated quickly.--WillC 23:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 12 - that's a heck of a long quote - are we sure it's not a copyvio?

The Rambling Man (talk) 18:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- I wouldn't consider it one.--WillC 23:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - I'd like to see what others think. Single sentences that have been copied from other sources have, in the past, been copyvios - this is a huge copy-and-paste... The Rambling Man (talk) 18:41, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - Agree with TRM. This is non-free content in the form of text. In this case the "Excessively long copyrighted excerpt" classifies as an unacceptable use. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 23:51, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      - Simple fix, I'll just remove the quote. Done--WillC 18:07, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support - my concerns addressed. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:35, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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