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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 22:05:04 15 September 2019 (UTC) [1].

List of Sacred Games episodes

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List of Sacred Games episodes (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): Yashthepunisher (talk) 12:42, 17 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The first episodes list of an Indian series to be nominated for FLC. I believe it meets the criteria. All the criticisms are welcomed. Yashthepunisher (talk) 12:42, 17 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment
  • The first season episodes have descriptions which (on my screen) are ten lines long, but for season two each episode is just a single sentence. Any reason why? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:21, 17 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • There seems to be a content dispute on the article regarding plot of the episodes and the season two plots are significantly shorter than Anon IP's version of the season one plot. Also, stuff like "Unsettling truths, complex betrayals and unforeseen connections emerge for Sartaj, Gaitonde and Shahid Khan as doomsday descends on Mumbai." sounds like it's directly lifted from the episode trailer and very non-neutral; probably shouldn't be in the plot summary section at all. Rest looks good to me though. A logo would be look lot better than a captioned poster but isolating the logo and creating a svg would take a lot of time. TryKid (talk) 01:33, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
ChrisTheDude and TryKid Your queries have been resolved. Yashthepunisher (talk) 09:15, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging @Yashthepunisher:. I was waiting for what Chris had to say before commenting so forgive me for not responding. I think the episode summaries need to be expanded quite a bit. Maybe it's possible to completely remove episode summaries in favour of season summaries or is that only for shows with different season articles? But the episode summaries are currently too short. TryKid (talk) 06:46, 19 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
TryKid I am following the similar existing FLs and I don't see any issue with the current version. Yashthepunisher (talk) 07:00, 19 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I see Gunsmoke list is similar but that was promoted in 2010. Other mainstream lists like GoT and Office (British) have much longer episode summaries. Can you provide some recent-ish FLs that have short episode summaries? Apparently the ping didn't properly go through (my signature got messed up). Let's try again: @Yashthepunisher:, hope this works this time. TryKid (talk) 09:56, 19 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
[2] There are no rules as such. Some lists have long summaries, some short, some with no summary at all. Yashthepunisher (talk) 10:36, 19 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:30, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
;Further comments
  • "Vikram Chandra's 2006 eponymous novel" => "Vikram Chandra's 2006 novel of the same name"
  • "follows a troubled police officer Sartaj Singh" => "follows a troubled police officer, Sartaj Singh"
  • "Erik Barmack, the Vice-president of Netflix contacted" => "Erik Barmack, the vice-president of Netflix, contacted"
  • "Swapnil Sonawane, Sylvester Fonseca and Aseem Bajaj served as the director of photography" - take out the "the" given that there's multiple names
  • "premiered on 6 July, 2018" - no need for the comma after July
  • "A total of 16 episodes aired over the two seasons with eight in each" => has the series ended for good? If not, change it to "A total of 16 episodes have aired over the two seasons with eight in each"
  • "tips him about something destructive" => "tips him off about something destructive"
  • "Nayanika Singh, a TV actress, visits bunty " - need a capital B on Bunty
  • "Sartaj's constable, Katekar finds" => "Sartaj's constable, Katekar, finds"
  • "a missing muslim boy" - capital M on Muslim
  • "Sartaj and Anjali try to find out Trivedi," => "Sartaj and Anjali try to find Trivedi,"
  • "Anjali in later killed by a assassin" => an assassin
  • "He eventually gets a large room full of weapons and Trivedi." - what do you mean by "he gets a large room"? I don't understand that bit.
  • "With the investigation going underway" => "With the investigation underway"
  • The lead says simply "The series chronicles the events that follow", but the episode summaries suggest that it flips back and forth between the present and various years in the past. Might be worth clarifying this in the lead.
  • Think that's it from me -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:50, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
ChrisTheDude Resolved the above mentioned issues. Yashthepunisher (talk) 04:47, 19 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I made a few little tweaks which it would have taken longer to explain here than to just fix. My one remaining comment relates to the final episode of season 1: He eventually finds an underground bunker with Trivedi and filled with weapons - this wording is slightly confusing. Does it mean that he went with Trivedi to find the bunker? Or does it mean that he found the bunker and Trivedi was in it? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:27, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
He went inside the bunker after getting a clue, where he finds stashed weapons and Trivedi tied to a chair. Yashthepunisher (talk) 07:38, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for clarifying/amending. Now happy to support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:41, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Aoba47

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  • I would include ALT text for the logo.
  • I am wondering if you could expand more on this sentence (Gaitonde tells him to save the city within 25 days.). Why only 25 days? Is Gaitonde threatening to destroy the city within 25 days or is there something else threatening the city? Some more clarification would be helpful here.
That's the whole suspense on which the entire story is build as Sartaj tries to find the answers and the meaning of the '25 days' mystery. Gaitonde tells him to save the city and then shoots himself. It's only revealed towards the end of the second season. Yashthepunisher (talk) 05:31, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • For this part (The series was conceived after Erik Barmack, the Vice-president of Netflix,), I do not believe "vice-president" needs capitalization.
  • I think this part (contacted Motwane to create Indian content for the platform in 2014.) would read more smoothly for the "in 2014" part was moved directly after "Motwane". The date is more connect with the time Motwane was contacted. The current wording could imply that he was contacted to make Indian content for Netflix only for 2014.
  • I have two comments on this part (they opted to adapt Chandra's novel in the local Indian language,). I would specify the exact language rather than "the local Indian language", and I would also clarify that the novel was in English. Without the point of reference that the original is English, it is not really clear why the language choice is important.
  • For this part (The first season of the series was mostly shot in Mumbai; the second season was shot over different locations of Delhi, Mombasa, Nairobi, Cape Town and Johannesburg.), why are multiple geographic areas linked, but not Delhi or Mumbai?
  • For this part (Each episode of Sacred Games is named after a story or character derived from Hindu mythology.), would a link to "Hindu mythology" be helpful?
  • Any word on a third season?
Nothing yet. But I will mention it when its announced. Yashthepunisher (talk) 05:31, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Since you mention the critical reception for the first season, has there been any reviews for the second season? It has just been released so I understand if there is not enough to form a consensus, but I was just curious.
There is no clear consensus available yet for the second season. Not even on RT. Yashthepunisher (talk) 05:31, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am wondering if a source should be used for this sentence (The second season premiered on 15 August 2019.[7] A total of 16 episodes have aired over the two seasons with eight in each.) since the rest of the lead has citations.

Wonderful work with the list. Once my comments are addressed, I will be more than happy to support this. If you have the time, I would greatly appreciate any comments on my FAC. Either way, have a great start to your week! Aoba47 (talk) 03:41, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Aoba47 The rest has been resolved. Thanks for your comments, and sure I will look into your FAC. Yashthepunisher (talk) 05:31, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Source review – There's one issue that needs a look:

  • Formatting-wise, the references are full of red error messages because of recent template changes that may or may not stick. For now, I'd be inclined to ignore them for the purposes of this review, as a relevant noticeboard discussion on the subject is still in progress.
  • Reference 9 is to the Daily Express, an English tabloid newspaper that I wouldn't typically consider a reliable source. Other than that source, the reliability looks okay.
  • The links are all in working order according to the link-checker tool. Giants2008 (Talk) 23:31, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Giants2008 Done. Thanks for the review. Yashthepunisher (talk) 05:38, 4 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The source review has been passed. Giants2008 (Talk) 20:11, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • remove the unused "date=" from ref 4
  • for the image license replace {{cc-by-sa-4.0}} to {{PD-textlogo}}.
  • shouldn't the "External link" be "External links".
There is only 'one' external link and that too, not any more. Yashthepunisher (talk) 05:26, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • add a short description. i.e. "List of Indian web television thriller series episodes"
  • alt=Sacred Games logo|Sacred Games logo from the opening sequence of the first season -> alt=Sacred Games logo|thumb|Sacred Games logo from the opening sequence of the first season
That's not how the logo's are represented on such lists. Yashthepunisher (talk) 05:26, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • external IMDB link gives an error.
Removed. Yashthepunisher (talk) 05:26, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, to give a clarity to the reader. Yashthepunisher (talk) 05:26, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It already mentions year in the table.___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 08:02, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Yashthepunisher:___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 13:05, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see any issue if the year is mentioned in the season heading. Yashthepunisher (talk) 08:07, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
CAPTAIN MEDUSA Rest is done. Yashthepunisher (talk) 05:26, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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