Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Ottawa Senators players

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:The Rambling Man 19:16, 20 July 2008 [1].

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List of Ottawa Senators players

I modeled this list after other featured NHL players lists. All concerns/comments will be addressed. Maxim_(talk) 15:25, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

• Comment - Can you expand the lead? It's currently two sentences long. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 15:30, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Before submitting the FLC, I was thinking myself about the short lead. See, I can't think of anything else to put in there. --Maxim_(talk) 16:23, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
    • You can explain what "Ottawa Senators" is and mention some awards players received while playing for the Senators.--Crzycheetah 00:14, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
• In the lead, since the tables are not sortable, you could mention who the all-time goal or point leaders are for the team. maclean 00:59, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Fixed the lead. Thanks for the ideas. :D Maxim_(talk) 13:55, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

• Comments
  • The lead is still weak. Can't you talk about players who have made most appearances, for example, or scored most goals, made most shutouts, whatever? Use your imagination but I'd expect to see the lead at least twice the current size.
  • "regular-season" doesn't need a hyphen, and in the table, it should just be Regular season, not Regular Season.
  • Image captions which are fragments (i.e. not complete sentences) don't need a period.
  • Put (NHL) after National Hockey League so it's clear what the abbreviation means for non-experts.
  • Don't like the way the lead is sandwiched by the two templates (the main and see also).
  • "one game in the 2000–01 NHL season would be listed as playing with the team from 2000–2001" - why 2000–01 and then 2000–2001? Be consistent. In fact, write the second out in English, so "from 2000 to 2001".
  • Is Wing a proper noun? I'd uncapitalise it in the key. And Played as well. And Loss.
  • Make sure you're using en-dash everywhere (e.g. "Statistics are complete through the 2007-08 season" needs to be fixed)
  • "Ray Emery's contract was bought out by the Senators and now he is a former member of the Senators." - reads awkwardly.
  • "UFA" in the caption - expand it for non-experts.
  • Some of the lead needs specific referencing, e.g. "The Senators were founded in 1992"...

The Rambling Man (talk) 16:25, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

• Comment
  • You should put the see also and main article in a See also section.
  • Lead is way too small. Write more about the article the Ottawa Senators team.
  • "Alfredsson is also currently captain of the Senators" should be "Alfredsson is also the current captain of the Senators"
  • You don't have to have the first paragraph in the key for seasons.
    • What's wrong with the current placement?
  • Link all the years to the NHL season.
    • That'd make a sea of blue, with random dashes of grey in the row as you shouldn't repeat links to the same article.
  • Year format should be "####–##", not "####-##".
    • It already uses the ndash.
  • some of the players redirect to another article. please write the accurate name for the article of the player.
  • Link the positions of the skaters to the exact article.
    • That's massive overlinking, the read can refer to the key.

Annoyomous24 22:21, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

• Comment—I'm rather busy right now in RL, so addressing these concerns will take a bit longer. Thank you for your patience, Maxim_(talk) 01:05, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
• Comment—I've addressed all the concerns except the one's I've separately replied. Maxim_(talk) 00:10, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
• Comment This looks good. I cannot see any inconsistencies. It has everything that other similar FLs do except for noting the captains. Add that and I'll support. Add Alternate Captains (essentially the same as Captains) and I'll super support. -maclean 07:09, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Added the captains, I can't find lists of previous assistants, and I'm not really surprised at that, as the I don't think teams even track their assistant captains. Maxim_(talk) 13:14, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
    • Support maclean 19:14, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
• Support: Although I'd never have thought I'd support anything regarding the Ottawa Senators, I think the users involved did a great job with this one. Seeing as Maxim already addressed any concerns that I could have possibly had, I think it is a great list to read. Lots of great content, and well organized. I definitely enjoyed reading it, and see no reason not to give it FL status. - Rjd0060 (talk) 15:00, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
• Support Consistent with other player FL's. Resolute 15:19, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

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