Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of One Piece video games/archive2
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was not promoted by User:Matthewedwards 22:08, 8 November 2008 [1].
previous FLC (03:15, 20 October 2008)
Last FLC ended with 0 Supports and 0 Opposes. -- Goodraise (talk) 02:58, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment
- I commented on the previous FLC before, I told you to change "World" to "world" but undo that, it's the proper name.
- Done. -- Goodraise (talk) 18:41, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Lead should be expanded to included more about the game's history, such as the first game released the most recent/in production.--SRX 13:54, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. -- Goodraise (talk) 20:43, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - My review was addressed in order satisfy WP:WIAFL.--SRX 21:15, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs) Oppose for now. There are a few ambiguities POV phrases and ungainly sentences that need to be settled before promotion. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:51, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"The games come in various genres, but their majority are role-playing games"—Doesn't make sense.
- Fixed, I think. Not sure what didn't make sense about the sentence. -- Goodraise (talk) 18:48, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The wrong word was used. The sentence needs some grammatical improvement though.
- Currently the sentence reades: "The series features various genres, the majority being role-playing games, predominantly in the early years, and fighting games such as the titles of the Grand Battle! sub-series." Could you be more specific as to what your concern is with this sentence? -- Goodraise (talk) 08:12, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed it myself. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:15, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Currently the sentence reades: "The series features various genres, the majority being role-playing games, predominantly in the early years, and fighting games such as the titles of the Grand Battle! sub-series." Could you be more specific as to what your concern is with this sentence? -- Goodraise (talk) 08:12, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The wrong word was used. The sentence needs some grammatical improvement though.
"hand-full"-->handful.
- Done. -- Goodraise (talk) 18:41, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually, can you be more specific and neutral than "handful"?
- Done. -- Goodraise (talk) 22:01, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually, can you be more specific and neutral than "handful"?
"These highly varying degrees of success"
- Done. -- Goodraise (talk) 18:41, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"While on the other hand, a game like One Piece, which has been produced for and exclusively released to the North American markets, has even been crowned "GBA Platformer of the Year" in 2005 by GameSpy's network of game websites." This sentence does not flow. What is it being compared to?
- Fixed. (Rewrote the whole paragraph.) -- Goodraise (talk) 09:29, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Like SRX said, expand the lead more.Dabomb87 (talk) 16:12, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. -- Goodraise (talk) 20:43, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"Currently in production is the second episode of the most recent game One Piece: Unlimited Cruise"-->The second episode of the most recent game One Piece: Unlimited Cruise is currently in production. Couldn't "second episode" be shortened to sequel?
- Sure, but since the sequel and prequel have the same main title, I'd have to expand the name of the first episode to at least part of the subtitle: "Currently in production is a sequel to the most recent game One Piece: Unlimited Cruise: Episode 1". If you like that version better or have anther idea, I'll gladly change it. For now I'll leave it as it is. -- Goodraise (talk) 22:20, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- It's fine, don't change it. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:21, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"While their "market is flooded with anime-themed games"" Who are "they"? In general, the last paragraph of the lead does not flow well.Dabomb87 (talk) 21:51, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed. (Rewrote the whole paragraph.) -- Goodraise (talk) 09:29, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, but can some of the POV and informal language be eliminated?
- "it is not surprising"
- Rewrote the sentence.
- "only" on two occasions
- One removed.
- Rewrote sentence of the other occurence.
- "Quite"
- Removed.
- "huge"->large Dabomb87 (talk) 21:21, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Replaced. -- Goodraise (talk) 21:54, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, but can some of the POV and informal language be eliminated?
- "It is supposed to be released sometime "this winter"." Provide a year and a source for the quote.
- Sourced the statement. Meant is the winter of 2008/2009, but I am not sure how you want that information applied to that sentence. -- Goodraise (talk) 22:57, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I fixed it like this. Hopefully I did not introduce wrong or unsourced information. Looks a bit awkward, but it will only be there a couple of months. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- That solution is fine with me. (I only used the quote in the first place to avoid violating WP:SEASON in the word of "winter".) -- Goodraise (talk) 23:12, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I fixed it like this. Hopefully I did not introduce wrong or unsourced information. Looks a bit awkward, but it will only be there a couple of months. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The entire second paragraph is unsourced.
- Sourced. -- Goodraise (talk) 23:22, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "predominantly in the early years" What was predominant in the early years?
- Fixed. -- Goodraise (talk) 23:03, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "After that, it took more than five years for the first game, with One Piece: Grand Battle!, to be released outside of Japan on September 7, 2005." The placement of this sentence within the lead is abrupt. I would think that it belongs somewhere in the last paragraph where it talks about the small number of international releases. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:15, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Moved and adjusted. -- Goodraise (talk) 23:54, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"most recent game"—does this mean "most recently released game"? Dabomb87 (talk) 00:04, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, it does. -> Replaced. -- Goodraise (talk) 00:12, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, it is a lot of times better than the last nomination. Sources look okay.Tintor2 (talk) 15:44, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for now Why does this list have tables with one row and two columns???? Please merge everything into a sortable table with more than two columns. Nergaal (talk) 00:31, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- As stated in the opening sentence of the previous FLC, this list is modeled after the featured List of Castlevania titles which uses the very same Template:VGtitle to generate these tables. The same goes for the featured lists of WWE SmackDown video game titles and Harvest Moon titles. Leaveing the examples aside, I don't see what kind of information you want that table to be sortable by. The titles are already sorted after release date. What else could you sort them for? The slight irregularities in publisher and developer hardly seem to justify such a drastic change. -- Goodraise (talk) 01:19, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I am not sure that this is the best format that wiki can come up with. There is a huge amount of empty space by using this template... Nergaal (talk) 01:35, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I guess a new table proposal can be brought up to WT:VG.SRX 21:16, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I am not sure that this is the best format that wiki can come up with. There is a huge amount of empty space by using this template... Nergaal (talk) 01:35, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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