Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of National Basketball Association player-coaches/archive1

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The list was promoted by Dabomb87 23:03, 30 December 2010 [1].

List of National Basketball Association player-coaches

Featured list candidates/List of National Basketball Association player-coaches/archive1

Nominator(s): Martin tamb (talk) 14:39, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Another NBA list about the player-coaches that were common in the NBA until the league prohibited them in 1984. — Martin tamb (talk) 14:39, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 09:06, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"as the teams'" as their teams'?

Fixed.

"the league" is repetitive in the lead, used at least three times in quick succession.

Changed some of them into BAA or NBA.

"Coach of the Year award(s) won[a]" is completely "None" and hence the [a] is irrelevant too. Any need for this col?

Column removed.

Yrs - is that complete years? Complete seasons? Would you really consider Dischinger to have a 1-year coaching career for two games? Suggest this col is axed.

Column removed.

You have a mix of spaced and unspaced slashes used within the article. Be consistent.

Fixed.

The Rambling Man (talk) 19:08, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reviews. — Martin tamb (talk) 07:03, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support after a tiny tweak, good work. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:55, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Any reason why not to split the tenure(s) into its own column?

I could split them, but it would not work well with Wilkens who have two separate coaching stints.

I don't see a problem with two tenures separated by a line break. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:06, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've split them, but on a quick glance at the table, it looks like Guerin had two stints with two different teams. I still think the previous arrangement is better. — Martin tamb (talk) 09:43, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think it looks better. But I'll leave this discussion open so people can make their own minds up. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:41, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am indifferent about both arrangements.—Chris!_c/t 00:41, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment This is a really cool little list, I like it a lot. One question, though none of them has won Coach of the Year, what do you think about including a general awards column to include any player honors (MVP, DPOY, etc, etc) if anyone won those? I'd be just as interested to know about exceptional player-seasons while coaching as I would be interested in outstanding coaching while playing. Staxringold _talk^contribs 01:37, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Great idea, I'll work on that soon. — Martin tamb (talk) 21:10, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Added the honors and awards column. I'm still looking on the All-Star Game coaching honors and will add them as soon as possible. — Martin tamb (talk) 16:16, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good, lemme know when you've checked that and I'll support. Staxringold _talk^contribs 17:11, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All done. — Martin tamb (talk) 17:53, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Waiting on the below, I missed that source issue. Staxringold _talk^contribs 01:27, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support I buy MT's argument below on this source, and beyond that it looks great! Staxringold _talk^contribs 14:15, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

~~Please check the sorting in the playoff columns. I'm getting some random oddities in the form of numbers sorting by one digit only.~~

Added hidden sortkey, sorting should be fine now. — Martin tamb (talk) 13:21, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

~~What makes http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm a reliable source? It looks like somebody's personal website. If a better source wasn't out there for this fact, it would surprise me.~~ Giants2008 (27 and counting) 22:18, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I believe it qualifies as a RS. The site is maintained by Larry Coon, who is often called an expert on NBA salary cap by media including The New York Times. He also writes for the ESPN.—Chris!_c/t 03:14, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Larry Coon's self-published website should qualify as reliable source per WP:SELFPUBLISH which says: Self-published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications. — Martin tamb (talk) 13:21, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Enough editors have come forward to convince me that the source is decent, though I still think something of a higher quality could be out there. I don't have any further issues. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 21:07, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I've tried to find a better source. I've been looking through the complete CBA documents here but I couldn't find anything about coaches' salary. Then it occurs to me that coaches are not part of the National Basketball Players Association, which explains why their salary are not counted in the salary cap. So far, Larry Coon's CBA FAQ is the only source I could find which clearly stated this information. — MT (talk) 05:30, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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