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- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was promoted 23:58, 29 December 2007.
This list "useful, comprehensive, factually accurate, stable, uncontroversial and well-constructed," has a good lead, and a free and useful image. This list uses a very similar format to already approved US State featured bird lists and is a self nomination. Pmeleski (talk) 20:39, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weak opposeuntil WP:MOS issues raised in peer review (e.g. inappropriate punctuation in photo captions Done, using numerals to start sentences Done, not spelling out numbers less than ten Done, etc.) are dealt with.Support MeegsC | Talk 14:19, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I went through the article today and addressed those three concerns. There may be others that have not yet been addressed, however. GaryColemanFan (talk) 20:27, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for your efforts, GaryColemanFan! That's addressed those three points. I think there are only a couple of further issues:
- Section header should be capitalized per WP:MOS (e.g. only the first word should be capitalised); this will mean updating the TOC as well Done
- References should be in standard format (e.g. cite book, cite web, etc.)
- Once those points are addressed, I'm happy to change my vote! MeegsC | Talk 22:04, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I fixed the section headers and table of contents. The list seems to be completely unreferenced, however. I know next to nothing about birds (I just picked this article at random and started addressing concerns), so I am unable to source the entire list. This (along with the previous four concerns) seems like something that should have been addressed after the Peer Review before this article was nominated for FL status. GaryColemanFan (talk) 16:03, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- No worries GCF, you fixed exactly what I was hoping would be fixed. As you say, these were all things that were mentioned on the peer review; I'm a bit surprised it came here without getting them sorted first! The overall referencing is another issue—and one we're currently working to sort out in WP:BIRD. MeegsC | Talk 18:01, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I fixed the section headers and table of contents. The list seems to be completely unreferenced, however. I know next to nothing about birds (I just picked this article at random and started addressing concerns), so I am unable to source the entire list. This (along with the previous four concerns) seems like something that should have been addressed after the Peer Review before this article was nominated for FL status. GaryColemanFan (talk) 16:03, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for your efforts, GaryColemanFan! That's addressed those three points. I think there are only a couple of further issues:
Comment for some reason there's no intro text for "ibises and spoonbills". THis is a flaw that has been carried down from List of North American birds.Circeus (talk) 03:04, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]In the same vein, "Order" and "family" stops being bolded with Columbidae until Tyrannidae. Circeus (talk) 01:34, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I bolded those words in the sections where the bolding was missing. MeegsC | Talk 22:54, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- comment I just copied the text here from the birds of Kansas list. May want to bring along the image also. Hmains (talk) 03:41, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Comprehensive, nicely described, nicely illustrated. --Orlady (talk) 14:40, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: I'm not fond of having all the sentences in the first paragraph start with "This list..." Otherwise the list looks good, but the first thing one sees should be changed. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 19:07, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the comments, I'll update many of suggestions made above. Regarding references concerns, this list follows almost identical reference format to List of North American Birds and List of New Jersey Birds which are already featured lists. I'm unsure what those lists have for references which make them work vs. this list which has what those lists have, yet it doesn't work.......As an aside, I do need to do some work to further divide a few families which have been updated over the past year from Clements/ABA, when that is done, I'll try for another FL nom.......Keep any comments coming in the meantime! And thanks for the editing help and for all the information! Pmeleski (talk) 23:56, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. Meets the criteria and is easily understandable to me, a non-bird enthusiast. Nicely illustrated and fine format. Noobiemacnoss1 (talk) 00:53, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Support per Orlady.--Crzycheetah 23:52, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.