Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Dexter episodes/archive1
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was not promoted by Matthewedwards 21:45, 14 April 2009 [1].
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I am nominating this for featured list because I think it meets the FLC criteria. Over the past few weeks, 97198 and I, have worked on this article and we think it's ready for FLC. Thanks. --Music26/11 18:37, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments - A few things I noticed in the lead. I'll provide a more thorough review a bit later.
- While solving murders in the Homicide division, Dexter also spends his time hunting and killing murderers and criminals who have escaped the justice system. - Why is "Homicide" capitalized but not "division"?
- Fixed.--Music26/11 18:14, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The pilot was watched by over a million viewers, giving Showtime its highest ratings in nearly two years. - I dunno, just seems a bit like an ad for Showtime.
- I think I get what you mean, but I'm not quite sure how to fix it. It could be reworded, but the fact remains that it broke a record for showtime.--Music26/11 18:14, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Three seasons have aired in the United States, each of which encompasses 12 episodes. A fourth and fifth season have been announced. - If "four" and "five" are spelled out, "12" should be, as well, for consistency's sake.
- My bad, fixed.--Music26/11 18:14, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
–Juliancolton Talk · Review 23:48, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose - The episode summaries seem too short to me; I have come to expect lengths of episode summaries like Avatar: The Last Airbender (season 2), Prison Break (season 2), or Veronica Mars (season 2) are at the minimum. I'd encourage either massive expansion rather quickly, or a short withdrawal followed by a couple of weeks of expansion. NuclearWarfare (Talk) 02:49, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I like it the way it is, actually. All I'm looking for is a brief explanation of what the episode is about, not an in-depth analysis of it. Moreover, the less original research, the better. –Juliancolton Talk · Review 02:52, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, the consensus on WP:TV-related episode lists has generally been that basic plot summaries do not constitute original research. Right now, I feel like the article's episodes are simply too short to give any real information; they almost seem to be deliberately masking information to get you to watch the episode to know any real details. NuclearWarfare (Talk) 03:14, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't mind expanding the sections, but I agree Julian, however, if there's more than one user that disagrees, I will expand the sections.--Music26/11 18:14, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't think the length is that bad, but one-sentence summaries are a no-no. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:30, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Is there anything that needs to be done right now? The majority thinks that the episode summaries are long enough, and so it appears that all problems are fixed. So why hasn't the article gained any supports? Please, if there are any problems, say so.--Music26/11 13:30, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The Manual of Style currently recommends 100-200 words per episode summary in episode lists. The pilot article's summary in that list has 47 words. Episode 1x5 has only 31 words. That's far too short in my opinion for me to support. NuclearWarfare (Talk) 19:00, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for your clear reply, I'll see what I can do.--Music26/11 10:30, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Confirm oppose per Matthewedwards' request. NuclearWarfare (Talk) 20:10, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- There should be some mention of Showtime being a premium cable channel, and that CBS is a national terrestrial broadcast network. This is necessary because people outside of the United States may not be aware of the difference.
- "over the public airwaves." again, non-Americans may find this hard to grasp
- "and chose to depart from Lindsay's second Dexter novel," No need for the itallics here, as it appears to be referring to the character
- In order to be promoting a non-systemic bias, you should move away from the {{globalize/USA}}-ness. Has the series aired in other countries?
- Can you provide information on whether the episodse are available in any forms of new media? Internet streaming, iTunes downloads, DVD releases, etc.
- The lede currently describes the premise of the series, but doesn't really discuss the episodess. Who are the exec producers? Who (if anyone) has directed and written the majority of the episodes? You may also want to consider giving the names of the main characters and actors
- The summaries are not summaries of the dictionary-definition for me. They're more like teasers, leaving the reader hungry for more, meaning he must either look for another site, or watch the episode. Example:
There is nothing here showing he is a serial killer. It's all about his "day job"; did he do any killing in this episodes? "The murderer" what murderer? Who is he? How do they find him? Is it the same murderer for all the chopped up bodies? Intrigues him in what way? What intricate methodology? What's the personal message? How is the episode resolved?Dexter Morgan is introduced as a blood spatter analyst by day and a serial killer by night. He is called to mysterious murder scenes involving chopped-up bodies, but with no blood in sight. The murderer intrigues Dexter with the intricate methodology as well as a personal message.
- The date format in the references should be in the same format as what is used in the main body of the article. Some are, but some are in ISO format.
That's all I have for now. Let me know if you manage to expand the summaries; I'll be glad to revisit. Matthewedwards : Chat 04:50, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.