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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted 20:12, 11 May 2008.

List of Christmas number one singles (UK)

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I've been working on this for a while now and I now think it meets all of the criteria for featured lists. It is as detailed as I think it can go without having too much information. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 19:19, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved stuff from The Rambling Man (talk) 19:02, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from The Rambling Man (talk · contribs)
  • Avoid bold linking in the lead per WP:LEAD#Bold title.
    • Done
  • Some POV issues for me:
    • "getting the number one spot has always been an honour for both artists and record labels."
    • "Christmas has become a very commercial time in modern years"
    • "gaining a number one at this time is much more difficult than any other, and can be very competitive"
    • Done
  • "also spent four years at the top" - not exactly, four Christmases at number one perhaps...
    • done
  • Shouldn't "the Shadows" be "The Shadows"?
    • done
  • "The Spice Girls managed to equal the record ..." just "...Girls equalled the record" is fine.
    • done
  • "beginning 1996" - I'd say "from 1996 to 1998".
    • done
  • "Many of the Christmas number ones were also the best-selling song of the year." - citation needed.
    • done
  • Consider making the table sortable, no reason why it shouldn't be.
    • done
  • Presumably Al Martino is the guy on the left? State that in the caption.
    • done
  • Images should be sized per WP:MOS#Images using either just thumb (for landscape) or thumb and upright (for portrait).
    • Done
  • "The song was not number one on Christmas Day but was still crowned the Christmas number one." - needs explanation.
    • done
  • "Also reached number one in the United States." - as Christmas number one or just in general?
    • done
  • The template suggests Xmas no. 1's started in 1950.
    • The template is wrong according to all sources I've encountered. The chart only began in 1952.

That's enough from me, right now a lot to do before I can support. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:53, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

More from TRM...
  • Is Martino on the right? He's doing well if so...! I'd crop the image, it's PD.
    • Hah! Cropped and the caption was changed.
  • "The official UK Singles Chart began in 1952" prove it.
    • Reffed.
  • "and the positions of all songs are based on the sales over the week before; thus the Christmas number one is, on occasion, not at number one on Christmas Day." this still seems confusing to me. The Christmas No. 1 will always be the song which sold most units up to and including the Saturday/Sunday (don't know) before Christmas Day. Is that correct?
    • I've tried explaining further, please let me know if it's not enough.
  • "one time each " - once each with...
    • Fixed.
  • Now you've made the table sortable, relink all instances of The Beatles, Queen etc since they could appear in different orders.
    • done.
  • Make Blobby's image upright since it's a portrait image.
    • Done.

That's about enough for round two! The Rambling Man (talk) 16:39, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How many more rounds?=P weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 21:12, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Please delink individual years (its never correct) and make the number of weeks entries centralised. indopug (talk) 06:22, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Matthew

Comments

  • Gotta like any list with a picture of Mr Blobby!
    • Fixed.=P
  • "The positions of all songs are based on week end sale totals, from Sunday to Saturday; thus the Christmas number one is, on occasion, not at number one on Christmas Day." Doesn't explain well enough. What day of the week would Xmas day fall on for a song not to number one on that day, but considered Xmas number 1? Give examples of songs that have done this
    • I don't understand this either; one source said that it has happened, although I can't see how, so I'll remove that for now.
  • I'm sure that the charts were not always from Sunday to Saturday. I know that Radio 1 used to broadcast them on Wednesdays way back when, although that may not be related. So just check on that statement
    • I think the ref covers that.
  • The Blobby caption says he's the only non-human to reach number 1, but I'd be very surprised if the cartoon character Bob the Builder suddenly started walking around the streets;)
    • Ok, fixed that. :)
-- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 04:38, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral erring on the side of support. I can't give my support because I won't have internet access for the next 14 days to see out this nomination. Sorry. Hope my comments helped though. -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 05:46, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That they did. Thanks. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 14:08, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - in the browser I'm using right now (Explorer), the images of Queen, Bob Geldof, and Cliff Richard overhang the table. - Marrio (talk) 14:08, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's because your image size default is too high (go to preferences to change it). I was advised to avoid forcing the image sizes, but thanks for bringing this up, Marrio. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 17:56, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - I see. Out of curiosity, why not force the image sizes? Marrio (talk) 18:06, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose I could, it wouldn't do any harm. Thanks for the suggestion! weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 18:33, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • Why is your list not included in Template:UK Christmas No. 1s ?
  • Of all artists and songs in the table, there is only one without an article. Could you create one?
The list looks fine to me. Good work. Support Baldrick90 (talk) 09:11, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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