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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Matthewedwards 18:04, 8 August 2009 [1].

List of CMLL World Trios Champions

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Nominator(s): MPJ-DK (talk) 12:38, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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I am submitting this list for FL as I believe it fullfills all the requirements, I've incorporated old review comments in the hopes of producing the best list yet. I've become very aware of redlinks in the lists and how it looks bad for what is supposed to be "Featured Contenet", therefor I have already created articles Los Infernales, MS-1 (wrestler), Pirata Morgan, Masakre and Jaque Mate and I plan on turning the remaining redlinks blue over the next couple of weeks: Outstanding redlinks at time of submission: Pierroth, Jr., Universo 2000, El Brazo, Gran Markus, Jr., El Hijo del Gladiador. Yes I am aware that have two other FL candidates but one is winding down and one has been going for a week or so, I feel confident it won't be a problem to work on input for either of them. I look forward to any and all comments. MPJ-DK (talk) 12:38, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Truco
Comments from Truco (talk · contribs)
General
  • Dabs, external links, and alt text check out fine.
Lead
  • The CMLL World Trios Championship (Campeonato Mundial Trios de CMLL in Spanish) is the primary professional wrestling three-man tag team championship promoted by the Mexican Lucha Libre wrestling-based promotion Consejo Mundial de Lucha Libre (CMLL) in Mexico since 1993. - 1)Unlink Mexico 2)I would move the sentence about how the title is a pro wrestling title after the sentence that explains about the other Trios title.
  • ..since 1993 the Mexican National title has been relegated to a secondary championship compared to the CMLL World Trios Championship. -- comma after 1993
  • The first Trios championship team to be recognized by CMLL was MS-1, Pirata Morgan and Satánico (a team known as Los Infernales; Spanish for "the Infernals") who defeated the team of El Brazo, Brazo de Oro and Brazo de Plata (known collectively as Los Brazos; Spanish for "the Arms") in the finals of a 16-team tournament. -- 1)How about instead The first champions to be recognized? 2)Because in Spanish Los is capitalized since its a noun, the The in English needs to be capitalized
  • It is the second reign for the team, while Héctor Garza has held the title three further times with other partners. -- further --> other
  • The team is the 20th overall champions, in total 36 individuals have formed 18 championship teams. -- change the comma to a semicolon
  • The team of Rey Bucanero, Emilio Charles, Jr. and Satánico held the championship the shortest time, at 39 days.
  • Black Warrior, Blue Panther and Dr. Wagner, Jr. hold the record for the longest single reign of any team, at over 1,141 days.
  • Dr. Wagner Jr's four reigns combine to 2,051 days, the highest for any wrestler. -- for --> of
  • ...Héctor Garza also holds the record for most individual reigns, with five reigns as part of four different teams.
  • The championship has been Vacated five times, either because one or more members of the team left the promotion or because a team split up, each time a tournament was held to determine the new champions. -- No need to capitalize Vacated
Table
  • Championship vacated after the team broke up -- period needed
Footnotes
  • All of them need a comma before placing

Comments by Will

Support: Concerns fixed--WillC 07:41, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Wrestlinglover
Lead
    • Change image text from "Perro Aguayo, Jr., part of the 17th CMLL World Trios Champions along with Héctor Garza and Mr. Águila" to "Perro Aguayo, Jr., along with Héctor Garza and Mr. Águila, were the 17th CMLL World Trios Champions.
      • Fixed
    • "The CMLL World Trios Championship (Campeonato Mundial Trios de CMLL in Spanish) is the primary professional wrestling three-man tag team championship promoted by the Mexican Lucha Libre wrestling-based promotion Consejo Mundial de Lucha Libre (CMLL) in Mexico since 1993." Add the translation of CMLL in here. Maybe change the sentence to "The CMLL World Trios Championship (Campeonato Mundial Trios de CMLL in Spanish) is the primary professional wrestling three-man tag team championship contested for by the Mexican Lucha Libre promotion Consejo Mundial de Lucha Libre (CMLL; Spanish for "World Wrestling Council") since 1993."
Title history
Team reigns by combined length
Individual reigns by combined length
    • Same as above.
Footnotes
    • Fine.
References
    • Taking all Spanish ones in good faith. Fine.
External links

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:40, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)
Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
  • Just so I know, how many more of these lists do you have in the works?
  • "The first champions to be recognized by CMLL was MS-1, Pirata Morgan and Satánico" "was"-->were (we're dealing with multiple champions)
  • "It is the second reign for the team, while Héctor Garza has held the title three other times with other partners." Can we fix the "other ... other" repetition?
  • "in total 36 individuals have formed 18 championship teams." Comma after "total".
  • "four different teams" I think "different" is redundant here.
  • "The championship has been vacated five times, either because one or more members of the team left the promotion or because a team split up, each time a tournament was held to determine the new champions." Change the comma after "up" to a semicolon.
  • A couple small niggles about the alt text, which is mostly very good: it is recommended that the simple present tense is used (so, "A professional wrestler ... stands" instead of "A professional wrestler ... standing"), and readers might not know what a "show" refers to. This should be remedied in all your lists, if necessary.
  • Because the following issues also popped up on the WCW FLC, I'll repeat the comments I made to Truco:
    • "The exact length of at least one title reign is uncertain, the shortest possible length is used." This is a comma splice. You have two options: 1)Use a semicolon ("The exact length of at least one title reign is uncertain; the shortest possible length is used.") 2)use a comma and a logical connector ("The exact length of at least one title reign is uncertain, so the shortest possible length is used."). Personally, I much prefer the second, as it flows better and makes more sense.
    • Footnotes: "The exact date" Add "on which" after this. Remove "where" in footnote two.
    • Footnotes: "placing" is not a good verb, because it sounds like someone actually "placed" their reign in that range. Suggest "is

not known, which means that [italics are mine for emphasis, don't actually use them] their reign lasted between $number and $number days".

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:40, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • A couple of the web titles have words in all caps (refs 5 and 7). Per MOS:ALLCAPS, these should be converted to title case.
  • Why are some refs' publishers "SuperLuchas" and italicized, while others' publishers are "SuperLuchas magazine" and not italicized? Dabomb87 (talk) 19:59, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Some are "cite web" some "cite news", when it's the actual magazine that's cited it's automatically in italics, when it's from the website of the magazine it's not automatically italic but should be, and I will fix it (in this and all other previous and future FLCs).  MPJ-DK  (No Drama) Talk  20:54, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • It depends on what I cite, the places it says "SuperLuchas magazine" I cite the website for the "SuperLuchas magazine", when I cite the website the publisher is "SuperLuchas" as that's how it's credited in the magazine. but I'll change it all to "SuperLuchas" for consistency.  MPJ-DK  (No Drama) Talk  01:21, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Resolved comments from Giants2008 (17–14) 23:44, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments – Looks much better than the previous list in the series, and the sorting issues seen last time are nowhere to be found here.
  • "The team is the 20th overall champions." I'm thinking that since "team" is singular, "champions" should be as well.
  • Just noticed that the image is fair-use. There is really no way a wrestler photo is going to be valid fair-use for a list of champions. Are there any free pictures that could be inserted as a replacement? If not, remember that images aren't mandatory for featured lists. Giants2008 (17–14) 23:17, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Would have supported yesterday if I didn't find the one problem image, and everything looks fine now that it's been removed. Giants2008 (17–14) 23:44, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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