Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Bob's Burgers episodes/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by The Rambling Man 21:04, 30 May 2012 [1].

List of Bob's Burgers episodes

Featured list candidates/List of Bob's Burgers episodes/archive1

Nominator(s): Tate Brandley Stockwell 22:09, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because it mainly meets criteria. If there is any problems, please tell me, I will try to fix the problem. Thank you. Tate Brandley Stockwell 22:09, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

The lead is not sufficient for a featured lists, three needs to be substantially more than the three short paragraphs that are currently used. Also with the recent failure of List of Friends episodes due to concerns over the template episode list meeting accessibility requirements, I'm not sure if those concerns have been fixed and the template now meets accessibility standards. Also the lead will references as well, when it has been suitably expanded. NapHit (talk) 12:28, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Regarding NapHit's comment about Template:Episode list and WP:ACCESS, the template is now fully MOS and DTT compliant, so there should be no issues in that regard.
The lede is indeed too short. Those two para-sentences are too short and should be expanded. There are many Featured episode lists to take inspiration and guidance from, so check them out.
The image fails [[WP:FL?#5(b).

It needs a caption. What is it? Did an editor draw that or is it the show's logo? The reader has no idea.
Why is the image in the article at all? The criteria requires images in the article that are appropriate to the topic, which in this case is a list of episodes. A show's logo does not identify a list of episodes, just the show, so it doesn't belong here.

Criterion 5(a) requires suitable use of color. What was behind the choice for the yellow, pink and green for the table headers and square boxes in the overview table, and why make them so bright? Make sure they conform with WP:COLOR. WP:NAVBOXCOLOR has some text appropriate to this, and Help:Using colours has a color generation chart.
You're transcluding content from other pages, but they have not gone passed WP:FLC or WP:GAN. The content of those pages may be changed at any time and anyone who had only this page watchlisted would not notice those edits, be they good or bad. The content of a Featured list article is scrutinized, but the only content here is the Lede. I would say it's necessary to have all content reviewed, so if you're going to transclude, those tables (and thus those season articles) need putting through the process first. However:
Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Television (which is an official part of the MOS rather than just a WikiProject's style suggestions) says "For very lengthy series, generally 80+ episodes, it may be necessary to break the episode list into individual season or story arc lists." This series has far less than 80 episodes and the season articles contain nothing but the episode list tables. There's no decent Lede, nothing about cast, production, reception, or anything that would require separate pages per WP:SIZE, WP:SPINOUT, WP:SS or WP:SIZESPLIT.

So mainly as for being unnecessarily split, it's an Oppose. But if the tables were merged from the season pages into this page I would reconsider. Matthewedwards (talk · contribs) 02:14, 25 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I undid the striking you did of my last two comments. Although you can say you've addressed them, it's for me to strike them, if I agree that they have been. Also, someone has actually reverted you at the article, so they're certainly not addressed any more. Matthewedwards (talk · contribs) 02:05, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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