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The list was promoted by SchroCat 17:32, 14 January 2014 [1].

List of Adventure Time episodes

Nominator(s): Gen. Quon (Talk) 21:01, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Second time is the charm. I am nominating this article because I feel that it meets the requirements. Modeled after List of Regular Show episodes and List of The X-Files episodes, this list features all of the episodes of Adventure Time that have aired, complete with references for production codes and Nielsen Ratings (where available). In addition, the article features a lede that has been tailored to give a brief summary of the article, as well as other information about the series. I feel it is ready for this promotion.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 21:01, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support - I have no problem. Blurred Lines 20:24, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Does the list satisfy 3a if the series is still ongoing? This was an issue I've faced before. Aside from that, why are there missing viewership numbers? DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 08:32, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I have actively been updating this list since November of 2012. While there is a slim chance I would have to step down, I think there are other editors out there who would update the list as the show went on. Besides, List of Regular Show episodes was promoted, and while OTHERSTUFFEXISTS isn't a valid argument, I think its a good analog to show that it can be promoted. Also, the reason there is missing viewership numbers is simply because they are missing; no site has posted them, so unfortunately, they can't be added. It's sad, but what can you do?--Gen. Quon (Talk) 16:20, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'll try and make time to look over the list later. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 01:15, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Ruby2010 (talk) 17:33, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comments -- this list is looking really good; just generated a few concerns below:

Recommend adding a link to the fifth season in the lead

Done.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 04:01, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"...and then re-added by different sources." -- can you expand on this a little? It's pretty vague (was it by fans?)

Removed, since the source really didn't say that.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 04:01, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Is there anything you could add about why Cartoon Network picked it up?

I tried to clarify this a bit without going into a huge amount of detail. Is it any better?--Gen. Quon (Talk) 04:01, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"The show has received positive reviews from critics..." -- not sure one review can back up this assertion; this really needs more support.

I added a whole boat-load more to support this point.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 04:01, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why no link for "Puhoy" in the lead? Ruby 2010/2013 20:42, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed.

Looking good, but I suggest you WP:CITEBUNDLE those citations (for the good reviews and Annie awards).

Done. Good call.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 16:11, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It seems odd that there are missing viewership numbers for such recent episodes -- usually those ratings are well-documented. I suggest you again go through TVBTN and Highbeam; I will do the same and let you know if I find anything.

This has been the bane of my editing when it comes to AT. Since its a cable show that doesn't rake in HUGE numbers, often times its left off the top 100 list that TVBTN posts. I've checked the Futon Critic too, but I'll peek at Highbeam. Maybe they have something that I missed.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 16:11, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Alas, Highbeam turns up nothing.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 16:13, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, my search was also fruitless. :/ All well. Ruby 2010/2013 17:33, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Somebody suggested to me recently that all TV by the Numbers links really should be archived, as they often recycle their old URLs. I realize that you have a lot cited here, however, so I would understand if you were reluctant to do so. Just a thought! Ruby 2010/2013 05:48, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well dang, that stinks. I'll do it, but it might take a bit. :P--Gen. Quon (Talk) 16:11, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I really should go through some of my articles and do this, especially the ones with the oldest links... But anyways, I am happy to now support this one for promotion. Nice work! Ruby 2010/2013 17:33, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Paper Luigi (talk) 18:07, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - It's a very well-made list.

- "...magical powers to change shape and grow and shrink at will." Why not link to shapeshifting and resizing (fiction)?
  Done.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 00:15, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- "the other main characters of the show" --> "the show's other main characters"
  Done.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 00:15, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- "Episodes are 11 minutes long." Combine with another sentence?
  Done.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 00:15, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Pilot section gives premiere as December 7, 2008, but series overview table just says December 2008.
  Fixed.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 00:15, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Is it acceptable to use multiple ampersands (e.g. Adam Muto & Kent Osborne & Niki Yang) instead of inserting a comma?
  Hmm, I'm not sure. I'm not sure if it matters. List of The X-Files episodes uses multiple ampersands, but List of Regular Show episodes doesn't. I'll just change it to match the latter.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 00:15, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- List of Regular Show episodes has an "Original air date" column while this list has an "Original airdate" column (without the space). Which is correct?
  Changed. It was the same with the List of The X-Files episodes, so I think 'air date' is preferred.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 00:15, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Paper Luigi ^{T • C} 20:45, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I now support the nomination. Paper Luigi ^{T • C} 18:07, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Holiday56 (talk) 13:26, 10 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comments – Happy to offer some thoughts. List is pretty solid and well-done; just a few minor quips.

"Larry Leichliter & Hugo Morales & Pendleton Ward" should be changed to "Larry Leichliter, Hugo Morales, & Pendleton Ward" in order to keep the formatting consistent with the season tables.
Done.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 04:01, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"Go With Me" – "With" shouldn't be capitalized
Done.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 04:01, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps "viewers" could be changed to "U.S. viewers"? Might as well denote which country the viewer counts pertain to, as leaving that little detail out may confuse some into thinking that those are worldwide ratings figures.
Done.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 04:01, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 11 – One reference reads "AnnieAwards.org. ASIFA-Hollywood." and another reads "AnnieAwards.org. International Animated Film Association." Italicization should be consistent for both, as well as the publishers (ASIFA-Hollywood or International Animated Film Association?)

Holiday56 (talk) 16:24, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thank you very much for your comments!--Gen. Quon (Talk) 04:01, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Great job! Holiday56 (talk) 13:26, 10 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I have also no problem with that since the main article looks FA ready. JJ98 (Talk) 12:19, 11 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Tentative Support It took long to go through the sources and to try and find those missing numbers. Looks like they don't exist. I suggest using | deadurl=no where necessary. Also, TV MSN has been proven to be unreliable in the past. This is my only issue. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 01:02, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Just to clear any confusion, there aren't any dead urls present. TV by the Numbers simply never published the numbers to begin with, so we don't know what they are/were. Although I'm not sure why or how MSN would be considered unreliable.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 01:36, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

? | deadurl=no would make the main link the live site instead of the archive. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 03:08, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see. If I have time, I'll add that. There's a lot of them.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 04:34, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As for the MSN TV discussion. There was an old discussion relating List of Bleach episodes airdates at MSN TV dates which were completely contradicting to reliable sources. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 07:22, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

| deadurl=no has been added to all the refs that need it. As for MSN, I guess no reliable sources are being contradicted at the moment, so that would make it OK, right?--Gen. Quon (Talk) 22:41, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. - SchroCat (talk) 17:42, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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